Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue resume deep dives

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  • Rockybigblower
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    #11
    The thing that seperates them for me are the cash grabbers. Inoue fights legitimate fighters regardless of how average he makes them look at times. Crawford on the other hand has a few "name" fighters on his resume that may make his resume seem a little brighter than it is. Khan who we all know about. Gamboa who came up the weights much like Loma vs Rigo....Brook who was broken by GGG.....Horn who most say was beaten by Pac.....and Spence who has question marks over him from the car crash etc.

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    • famicommander
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      #12
      Originally posted by Rockybigblower
      The thing that seperates them for me are the cash grabbers. Inoue fights legitimate fighters regardless of how average he makes them look at times. Crawford on the other hand has a few "name" fighters on his resume that may make his resume seem a little brighter than it is. Khan who we all know about. Gamboa who came up the weights much like Loma vs Rigo....Brook who was broken by GGG.....Horn who most say was beaten by Pac.....and Spence who has question marks over him from the car crash etc.
      Gamboa was not like Rigo vs Loma. Gamboa was a reigning WBA interim titlist and ranked in the top 10 of the division he fought Crawford in. He was already established at lightweight before the Crawford fight. And prior to that he had two fights and won an interim strap at super featherweight. He went from unified featherweight titlist to interim super featherweight titlist to interim lightweight titlist to challenging Crawford for the lightweight title.

      Rigondeaux jumped all the way from super bantamweight to fighting Lomachenko at super featherweight with no fights in between.

      Dishonest comparison.
      Last edited by famicommander; 05-10-2024, 08:14 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by famicommander

        Gamboa was not like Rigo vs Loma. Gamboa was a reigning WBA interim titlist and ranked in the top 10 of the division he fought Crawford in. He was already established at lightweight before the Crawford fight. And prior to that he had two fights and won an interim strap at super featherweight. He went from unified featherweight titlist to interim super featherweight titlist to interim lightweight titlist to challenging Crawford for the lightweight title.

        Rigondeaux jumped all the way from super bantamweight to fighting Lomachenko at super featherweight with no fights in between.

        Dishonest comparison.
        So what you are saying is this. Gamboa having one fight at super feather for an interim title...and one fight at lightweight for an interim title...established him as a legitimate lightweight? Theoretically its the same 2 division jump. Im sorry i've offended you. I'm not saying Crawford is a bad fighter or is recieving false accolades. He deserves his mention in the current top ten PFP. It is clear though that you are subliminally lacking objectivity here. Try to be less passive. If you are trying to sway opinion onto Crawford...just say you believe Crawford is better. That way you will get debate rather than argument.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Rockybigblower

          So what you are saying is this. Gamboa having one fight at super feather for an interim title...and one fight at lightweight for an interim title...established him as a legitimate lightweight? Theoretically its the same 2 division jump. Im sorry i've offended you. I'm not saying Crawford is a bad fighter or is recieving false accolades. He deserves his mention in the current top ten PFP. It is clear though that you are subliminally lacking objectivity here. Try to be less passive. If you are trying to sway opinion onto Crawford...just say you believe Crawford is better. That way you will get debate rather than argument.
          No, you are the one lacking objectivity.

          Gamboa was ranked in the top 10 by both The Ring Magazine and the TBRB at lightweight when he fought Crawford.

          Rigondeaux had never even fought at featherweight or super featherweight before jumping directly into a fight with Lomachenko for a title. He also never fought above 122 again, and even moved all the way back down to 118.

          There's a difference of three fights worth of adjustment there. Gamboa fought twice at 130 and won an interim title, then he fought at 135 (against an undefeated future WBA lightweight world titlist) and won an interim title and entered the top 10, then he challenged Crawford for a full title. And he also fought at lightweight three times before his featherweight run back in 2007, and he fought there 11 more times after the Crawford fight.

          16 career fights at lightweight for Gamboa, 1 career fight above 122 for Rigondeaux.
          Last edited by famicommander; 05-10-2024, 08:44 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by famicommander

            Show me 10 active fighters besides Inoue with a better resume. Should be easy if Crawford's resume is so horrible.

            Do the work. Show us who these people fought and what their own rankings and title accomplishments were.
            canelo has the best active resume it's not even close you dumb ****** fuxkk.

            Crawford is an overrated privileged hype job plain plain simple.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Regge

              canelo has the best active resume it's not even close you dumb ****** fuxkk.

              Crawford is an overrated privileged hype job plain plain simple.
              Canelo has 2 losses, 2 draws, several controversial decisions, and only won lineal championships at 160 and 168. He lost his lineal title challenge at 154 and his title at 175 is a paper belt.

              But, again, I asked for 10 fighters and I asked for their resumes. If Crawford's resume is trash it should be easy to find 10 other guys out there with 13 top 10 wins and 0 losses.

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                #17
                Originally posted by famicommander

                Canelo has 2 losses, 2 draws, several controversial decisions, and only won lineal championships at 160 and 168. He lost his lineal title challenge at 154 and his title at 175 is a paper belt.

                But, again, I asked for 10 fighters and I asked for their resumes. If Crawford's resume is trash it should be easy to find 10 other guys out there with 13 top 10 wins and 0 losses.
                So you're telling me Crawford has a better resume than canelo?? Man gtfoh I can't take you serious boxing isn't for you your in the wrong sport.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  No, you are the one lacking objectivity.

                  Gamboa was ranked in the top 10 by both The Ring Magazine and the TBRB at lightweight when he fought Crawford.

                  Rigondeaux had never even fought at featherweight or super featherweight before jumping directly into a fight with Lomachenko for a title. He also never fought above 122 again, and even moved all the way back down to 118.

                  There's a difference of three fights worth of adjustment there. Gamboa fought twice at 130 and won an interim title, then he fought at 135 (against an undefeated future WBA lightweight world titlist) and won an interim title and entered the top 10, then he challenged Crawford for a full title. And he also fought at lightweight three times before his featherweight run back in 2007, and he fought there 11 more times after the Crawford fight.

                  16 career fights at lightweight for Gamboa, 1 career fight above 122 for Rigondeaux.
                  Money fights. He fought 4 times for the title and was knocked out in 3 of those fights.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by famicommander

                    No, you are the one lacking objectivity.

                    Gamboa was ranked in the top 10 by both The Ring Magazine and the TBRB at lightweight when he fought Crawford.

                    Rigondeaux had never even fought at featherweight or super featherweight before jumping directly into a fight with Lomachenko for a title. He also never fought above 122 again, and even moved all the way back down to 118.

                    There's a difference of three fights worth of adjustment there. Gamboa fought twice at 130 and won an interim title, then he fought at 135 (against an undefeated future WBA lightweight world titlist) and won an interim title and entered the top 10, then he challenged Crawford for a full title. And he also fought at lightweight three times before his featherweight run back in 2007, and he fought there 11 more times after the Crawford fight.

                    16 career fights at lightweight for Gamboa, 1 career fight above 122 for Rigondeaux.
                    Darlys Perez won the WBA interim title. Is that a real “world titlist”? He lost every actual championship fight.

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                    • famicommander
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Kev-

                      Darlys Perez won the WBA interim title. Is that a real “world titlist”? He lost every actual championship fight.
                      He held the full title.

                      Juan Manuel Marquez got stripped which elevated Richar Abril to full WBA champion. Then Abril was stripped which elevated the interim champion Perez to full WBA lightweight champion. Then Perez successfully defended the full WBA title once via draw against Crolla, then lost to Crolla in the rematch. Then Crolla lost it to Linares.

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