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  • #21
    Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post

    "repellent character" - nicely put

    Usyk is certainly MY sentimental favorite. Usyk is class act and perhaps a bit of an overachiever given his size disadvantage and having come up from Cruiserweight.

    I reckon Usyk has at least as much, if not better, fight IQ than Fury, and Fury is pretty smart in the ring. I'm hoping that will give Usyk enough of an edge to win.
    Fury has a puncher's chance and that's about it...no way in hell he outboxes a technically gifted fighter like Usyk who has an ELITE amateur background.
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    • #22
      Fury would need all he has in his arsenal to beat Usyk. And that will mean changing tactics during the fight...on the back foot, fighting at range, switching between orthodox and southpaw to counter Usyk's lateral movement, coming forward trying to run him over, clinching and dirty tactics, body shots, and uppercuts. Trying to fight like AJ would be simply dumb.
      I think Fury is smarter and will have better chances at the beginning because it will be more difficult once Usyk starts to get comfortable with Fury's movements, range, and timing.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

        Fury has a puncher's chance and that's about it...no way in hell he outboxes a technically gifted fighter like Usyk who has an ELITE amateur background.
        I agree, Usyk's truly elite amateur background + his technical gifts + his ring IQ can be enough to lead him to victory.
        I wouldn't underestimate Fury's chances though. He has shown incredible toughness getting off the canvas against Wilder, and he does have impressive physical advantages, so we'll see how it plays out in the ring.
        I'm rooting for Usyk, obviously.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post

          In reality he has only performed well in his entire career vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder.
          How many times has anyone inside a boxing ring, got to write off Tyson Fury? Against who? Dillian Whyte, Derek Chisora three times, Otto Wallin?

          Tyson Fury quite simply has not been involved in enough top level fights 'To get written off, or doubted by anyone'.

          But I have always stated, regardless 'Tyson Fury's clutch game is thus-far been proven to be solid'.

          Tyson Fury has almost always won his biggest fights, all accept his first fight against Deontay Wilder 'Tyson Fury for sure did not win the first Deontay Wilder fight, you don't win World titles by being backed up all night, decked twice once badly. The correct decision on that fight was a draw'.

          Note: Oleksandr Uysk stylistically is not the most difficult fight for Tyson Fury, I still believe Anthony Joshua is a stylistically more difficult fight. If you playing a game, and you had to create a character to beat Tyson Fury 'That fight would appear more like Joshua than Uysk'.

          But the reason why I think Oleksandr Usyk has a serious chance of beating Tyson Fury is because 'Uysk is the superior fighter skill for skill and athlete, he is more experienced at actually fighting at World and Elite level boxing throughout his entire career'.

          Tyson Fury is not the best fighter skill for skill Oleksandr Uysk has ever fought 'Uysk most likely in the amateur ranks, and during his cruiserweight career has fought superior fighters skill for skill'.

          Uysk has debatably already fought and beat a superior super Heavyweight in certain area's of is game than Tyson Fury twice 'That fighter is Anthony Joshua'.

          Joshua has superior brute strength, power, combination punch ability, better more solid boxing fundamentals 'Than Tyson Fury'.

          Tyson Fury is not experienced in the same way Oleksandr Uysk and Anthony Joshua are 'Tyson Fury's greatest ever achievement as a amateur boxer, was being beaten by David Price over the distance'.

          From the moment this fight was announced, and during all of the fight preparation 'Fury's lack of experience for me has been on show for everyone to see'.

          Tyson Fury has not been to the big dance many times before 'Not in the same way Uysk and Joshua have'.

          Uysk's preparation coming into this fight, has been better than Fury's 'Uysk has been routinely beating stronger fighters than Fury, both Dubois and Joshua are stronger fighters than Fury in terms of brute strength and power'.

          It is all about Fury's training camp 'Fury has ether won or lost this fight in training camp tactically, not due to lack of effort'. If Tyson Fury's team have attempted to bring back a version of Fury that we have not seen for almost 9 years, I personally think that would be tactical mistake'.

          And from all the interviews I have observed, all the information out there 'It does appear that Tyson Fury and his terms, have attempted to bring back some hybrid version of the Riddler'.

          Tyson Fury can still not been disregarded, because like I stated 'Fury in big fights, he has always produced a great effort' etc.



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          • #25
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
            ... you don't win World titles by being backed up all night, decked twice once badly. The correct decision on that fight was a draw'.
            Does this apply only for title fights? I am asking for Joseph Parker because he recently won a non-title fight being knocked down twice. As for the first Fury-Wilder match it was bad scorecards because Wilder was still protected but he obviously lost it.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post

              I agree, Usyk's truly elite amateur background + his technical gifts + his ring IQ can be enough to lead him to victory.
              I wouldn't underestimate Fury's chances though. He has shown incredible toughness getting off the canvas against Wilder, and he does have impressive physical advantages, so we'll see how it plays out in the ring.
              I'm rooting for Usyk, obviously.
              Agreed...Fury's toughness and will to win are second to none but I think the 3 wars with Wilder have taken their TOLL which showed during the Ngannou fight who Fury should've DEMOLISHED just like Joshua. Also, Usyk has a great chin so I can't see Fury stopping him which leads me to believe that he'll win on points. Also, his ice cool temperament in comparison to Fury's angry, childish behaviour should give him the edge.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

                Agreed...Fury's toughness and will to win are second to none but I think the 3 wars with Wilder have taken their TOLL which showed during the Ngannou fight who Fury should've DEMOLISHED just like Joshua. Also, Usyk has a great chin so I can't see Fury stopping him which leads me to believe that he'll win on points. Also, his ice cool temperament in comparison to Fury's angry, childish behaviour should give him the edge.
                Yeah, Fury is a d*ck out of the ring, but I've not seen him lose his cool in the ring.
                He has stayed mentally focused just enough to keep winning, so I might have to disagree with you on that.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post

                  Yeah, Fury is a d*ck out of the ring, but I've not seen him lose his cool in the ring.
                  He has stayed mentally focused just enough to keep winning, so I might have to disagree with you on that.
                  I've never seen Fury be this childish, angry, unstable etc against any opponent before including Wilder. Therefore, I genuinely believe that he feels THREATENED by Usyk and pulling out with an injury a few weeks ago didn't help matters either.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post

                    i think.fury stops him
                    That would be an incredible feat. If this fight happened a year ago I would have had Fury by UD. I know Fury will show up focused and much better than he did against Ngannou, but I just feel like Usyk is always prepared physically and mentally. And Fury's back-and-forth, yo-yo lifestyle is finally going to cost him in this fight.

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                    • #30
                      It's amazing that Parker beat Wilder and Zhang, but is no closer to a title shot than either of them.

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