Virgil never asked that of ward

[Roadblock]

as a percentage of body weight moving from 108 to 135 is a 25 percent increase in your mass. a 25 percent increase in mass for someone who started at 130 would land them somewhere between 160 and 168. i know lots of medium to higher weight guys have moved up 30 pounds but not many guys who started that low have gone up and had success moving up 30 pounds since its such a greater amount of weight to put on by percentage. pac of course and im sure there are others but not too many.

Strength endurance and speed is not a linear percentage of bodyweight, so a linear percentage is flawed to begin with.

There has been a lot that went up around 30lbs or more, Hearns went from 147 to 200, Thobela went from 130 to 180, Camacho, Duran, Oscar, Floyd went up 28, TC is well on the way its quite a long list and if you count not well known fighters its a mile long.

At the end of the day Inoue could go to 135 if he wants to achieve that its doable.

[nghtmr111]

What BS is this, fans are like the protected species brigade, whether its Tank TC or Inoue, Id love to see them all do things nobody else has done.

I think there is too many fans that dont know their place, we are spectators not owners.

BS? You didn't even respond to my arguments. To be fair, I wouldn't mind seeing it either, and it is interesting to see people take major risks. But that doesn't change the fact that Tank hasn't ever taken ANY risks. Why aren't Tank fans ever calling for him to fight Haney, Shakur, Loma, Cruz rematch, even Kambosos? Why hasn't he fought any of those guys after ALL OF THESE YEARS? Why is he never fighting the true champions around his division? Why does Inoue have to take the risk? Because people want Tank to beat him to discredit Inoue's greatness? I just don't understand how this is even a ****ing debate and now I'm over here feeding into it by even making the debate.

My issue is that the same people who are calling for Inoue to take the challenge are going to discredit him and claim he's not great. That he was a hype job all along.

If Tank were to win, they're gonna add that win to his list of the world champions that he has beat and use that for their false narrative that Tank is 'GREAT' and the face of boxing.

While it is amazing to see people take crazy risks, I just still prefer to see the people who are TRULY SUPPOSE TO BE FIGHTING EACH OTHER as opposed to someone taking a major risk.

Inoue is creating his own legacy, Tank doesn't need Loma or anyone around his weight for his legacy.

ALSO we all know that 90-95% of the time the person moving up typically loses.

It is what it is. These are the legit facts and to be a **** about it, I'm 100% right whether you like it or not.

[Roadblock]

BS? You didn't even respond to my arguments. To be fair, I wouldn't mind seeing it either, and it is interesting to see people take major risks. But that doesn't change the fact that Tank hasn't ever taken ANY risks. Why aren't Tank fans ever calling for him to fight Haney, Shakur, Loma, Cruz rematch, even Kambosos? Why hasn't he fought any of those guys after ALL OF THESE YEARS? Why is he never fighting the true champions around his division? Why does Inoue have to take the risk? Because people want Tank to beat him to discredit Inoue's greatness? I just don't understand how this is even a ****ing debate and now I'm over here feeding into it by even making the debate.

My issue is that the same people who are calling for Inoue to take the challenge are going to discredit him and claim he's not great. That he was a hype job all along.

If Tank were to win, they're gonna add that win to his list of the world champions that he has beat and use that for their false narrative that Tank is 'GREAT' and the face of boxing.

While it is amazing to see people take crazy risks, I just still prefer to see the people who are TRULY SUPPOSE TO BE FIGHTING EACH OTHER as opposed to someone taking a major risk.

Inoue is creating his own legacy, Tank doesn't need Loma or anyone around his weight for his legacy.

ALSO we all know that 90-95% of the time the person moving up typically loses.

It is what it is. These are the legit facts and to be a **** about it, I'm 100% right whether you like it or not.

The BS lay in the idea Inoue cannot move up 10 pounds, its possible if he chooses to try.

Your claim " My issue" and then finish with " I'm 100% right whether you like it or not" is fan stuff, Im against fans against it, why would any fan be against that fight, or TC vs Canelo, Id like to see Bam Bam fight Inoue and he has got to go up more than 10lbs , I dont expect any of them to do it thats their decision but if its mentioned Im all for these fights.

[_Rexy_]

I love how Tank’s fans want Inoue to take the risk but don’t ask Tank to take any risks. You can’t make this shyt up.

I still remember that interview with Tank where (years ago) he said “I don’t need lomachenko for my legacy”

the fact that people actually defend that shyt is insane to me. I remember being a huge supporter of Tank many years ago and was one of the very few people that gave him a really damn good chance vs Loma.

He yung tho….

I remember bringing up Inoue whenever someone said "Tank is young doe"

What was the response? "Who? Nobody knows who that is. Nobody will follow those rice eating divisions."

[_Rexy_]

The BS lay in the idea Inoue cannot move up 10 pounds, its possible if he chooses to try.

Your claim " My issue" and then finish with " I'm 100% right whether you like it or not" is fan stuff, Im against fans against it, why would any fan be against that fight, or TC vs Canelo, Id like to see Bam Bam fight Inoue and he has got to go up more than 10lbs , I dont expect any of them to do it thats their decision but if its mentioned Im all for these fights.

If Bam did fight Inoue (which no Inoue fans are really interested in, since it's pulling a guy up 2 divisions) that would be 7 pounds, not 10.

[Roadblock]

If Bam did fight Inoue (which no Inoue fans are really interested in, since it's pulling a guy up 2 divisions) that would be 7 pounds, not 10.

Bam Bam 110 last weighin, Inoue 121 last weighin . get out of the paper and look at the fighters involved.

[_Rexy_]

Bam Bam 110 last weighin, Inoue 121 last weighin . get out of the paper and look at the fighters involved.

Bam is fighting Estrada next month at 115. Just like where his 3 fights in 2022 were.

[Roadblock]

Bam is fighting Estrada next month at 115. Just like where his 3 fights in 2022 were.

Is that on the paper or what the scale read last fights ?

[crimsonfalcon07]

108 is 80% of 135
130 is 80% of 162

so i presume if my maths are right, which they very well may not be, that going from 108 to 135 is the same as going from 130 to 162

looking at it again maybe its wrong seems like the 162 should be a bit higher? or maybe not, the brain is not working so good right now for some reason

Formula is difference over original.

Hence the 27 pounds separating 108 and 135 is a 25% increase.

130*1.25 would give 162.5. So you had the right weights but not the right percentages.

But it's not quite that simple, which is part of why the weight classes are separated the way they are, and why there is exactly one guy who has become an 8 division world champion, or seven. Only 2 6 division champs. Btw, if Inoue gets a title at 126, that will be across 6 weight classes. And that's without cherry picking or leaving any viable contenders or belts behind in two weight classes, if he can finish conquering 122. No tuneups. No A-side rehydration clauses or catchweights. Just who's the best guy on the night against the best available competition, for his entire career.

[AKAcronym]

I love the argument that “Manny did it, so why can’t Inoue?” Yeah let’s use the most extreme statistic to prove a point. One guy out of thousands moved up this many divisions, so this guy should too. Manny was already fighting at a higher weight at an earlier age (pretty sure). The notion that it’s “only 10 pounds,” is dumb for someone who’s moved up that much already. At what point is too much? It’s only 10, then 11, 12 and so on. There inevitably becomes a limit. It’d be great to see how high he can go but it’s amazing how much is now being expected of him, while the absolute bare minimum is expected of others.