Shingo Inoue as a trainer

[famicommander]

yes, I took your advice LOL!!! Jesus man!! you were the one who brought this up now you are mad that I am agreeing with you? man, make up your mind. we are talking about Shingo being a great trainer, so of course we have to look at his fighter's record right. his 2 fighters aside from Inoue, both have L's...

He's trained 3 total fighters, all three his own blood relatives, and the worst one of the 3 won the Japanese Super Lightweight title and a regional WBO belt. The second best is a reigning WBA world titlist, and the best is a 4 division world titlist and 2 division undisputed lineal champion. That's a crazy success rate, what the hell are you even talking about?

Even if you removed Naoya, to have only trained 2 fighters in Takuma and Koki and for them to have a combined record of 37-3 with a world title and several regional belts between them is very good.

Shingo was an amateur fighter himself and he's the reasons his sons and nephew are boxers to begin with.

[famicommander]

He thought his sons pretty well, textbook skills used at a advanced level and are fundamentally complete fighters.

Takuma who isn't know for being a big puncher like his brother, beat multiple elite fighters and attained the WBA title at 118. They are dfferent fighters, what Takuma has achieved is his own handy work attained from dedication and commitment. So I am aware comparing them might be wrong.

However they are athletically and stylistically similiar, if Naoya didn't have the renown punching power he is known for, he would still be an elite fighter.

Too bad I can't read more on the father's interviews as he both keeps to himself and isn't that well known outside of Japan due to the language barrier.

It's impressive that he's not out there making the success of his sons about himself like some other boxing dads.

Can you imagine if Kenny Porter or Angel Garcia had not just one, but two world champion sons at the same time? They'd never shut the hell up.

[_Rexy_]

you said that at 31, pac was a 5 division champ while Inoue is a 4 division champ (as you can see Pac was already ahead of Inoue at the same age), then you brought up Pac's L's and use that as a reason why you feel Inoue is higher than Pac. so you cant pick and choose when to use L's from a fighter to discredit what he has accomplished.

Once again, one was in comparing two resumes, and the other is in discussing a trainer.

Apples and ****ing handguns

[_Rexy_]

no it's not.. it shows you are biased when it comes to certain fighters... the discussion here is that Shingo deserves more credit, but for what??? Inoue is the only one that shines... and like I said, Inoue is just naturally gifted no matter who the trainer is. so if we wanna talk about Shingo deserving more credit but we are just gonna ignore the L's on his fighters record? Remove Inoue out, and you have a fighter with 1 L, and another fighter with 2 L's... so why exactly does shingo deserve more credit if you remove Inoue out? He's just like any other average trainer out there.

If you removed Naoya Inoue, then he still has 50% world titlists.

[crimsonfalcon07]

If you removed Naoya Inoue, then he still has 50% world titlists.

That guy is a clown. He's one of the people who keeps insisting that Inoue needs to come to America, and if he'd only come fight in the US, he'd be a huge star here. I've told him several times that Inoue has already fought in the US, and American fans didn't care, but it's in one ear and out the other. He's a racist troll with zero sense. Don't waste your time on his nonsense.

And on topic, if you've got one guy who has legendary power, the trainer might have little to do with it. But when you've got someone with very little power and you can make them a world champion, and even start getting them knockouts in title defenses, then that's pretty respectable for a trainer.

[_Rexy_]

That guy is a clown. He's one of the people who keeps insisting that Inoue needs to come to America, and if he'd only come fight in the US, he'd be a huge star here. I've told him several times that Inoue has already fought in the US, and American fans didn't care, but it's in one ear and out the other. He's a racist troll with zero sense. Don't waste your time on his nonsense.

And on topic, if you've got one guy who has legendary power, the trainer might have little to do with it. But when you've got someone with very little power and you can make them a world champion, and even start getting them knockouts in title defenses, then that's pretty respectable for a trainer.

Lot's of guys have legendary power and can't box for ****.

[crimsonfalcon07]

fought twice against some low level names. if american fans dont care then Inoue is just a star in asia then.

Ok clown... Let me know when you've finally left your parent's basement, let alone traveled the world. Inoue is one of the biggest stars in the world. US fans are getting increasingly irrelevant when it comes to boxing.

[famicommander]

fought twice against some low level names. if american fans dont care then Inoue is just a star in asia then.

1. He fought three times in the US, not just twice, including against Jason Moloney
2. He also beat Emmanuel Rodriguez in Scotland
3. He has beaten world titlists from Mexico, the Philippines, the US and Puerto Rico, England, Australia, the Dominican Republic, Argentina, and Japan.

[daggum]

naoya needs to get virgil hunter as trainer so he can clinch, headbutt, lowblow, and hold and hit nonstop. this will get him to p4p #1. oh yeah and rob his opponents that clearly beat him. ive seen it happen

[famicommander]

why are you against him fighting more in the US to get more exposure? isnt that a good thing? I don't know where you are from, but if you are from the US, don't you want a chance to see him fight live in Vegas or something?

I'm not against him fighting in the US. I'm saying he should fight wherever he's going to get paid the most. I'd love to see him fight live but he doesn't owe it to me or anybody else. If he can sell out 55,000 seat stadiums, make big money, and put on the best fights then who am I to tell him what to do?