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Canelo-Crawford in Saudi just doesn’t sit right with me.

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  • #21
    Who says it'll be in Saudi? They're doing events in the states now. Either way they got the money to make it happen

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    • #22
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      The fights a joke and makes no sense.
      Look all respect to Turki as he is making fights possible that would never happen without his money.

      But he needs to read up on Weight Classes haha

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Feroz View Post
        I understand Crawford is a P4P fighter who might be better overall when it comes to skill, but honestly just can't see Terrance having enough endurance and punching power to compete at 168.

        Out of Bud's opponents in the higher weight classes, the closest proxy stylistically to Canelo is Mean Machine who is quite smaller at 147 and has less recourses as a boxer. Yet the Lithuanian's counter punching was difficult to handle until Bud made adjustments in the later half.

        Just don't think he have the conditioning and reflexes like most fighters without cutting in his optimal weight along while Alvarez is able to rehydrate quite heavier than him. Same fighter who has been dropping bigger boxers like Kovalev, Saunders, Ryder, Plant, Charlo (a 154 pounder who went to survival mode for twelve rounds) and Munguia.

        Yet fans think a fighter that debuted at lightweight and has been buzzed in three occasions already by Gamboa, Porter and Kavaliauskas is going to be too skilled to avoid getting caught in twelve rounds? Just seems like a big task. Canelo is declining and might eventually lose again to another top fighter, just seems absurd in my perspective that he loses to a fighter coming from three divisions below when he can still contend at the top level.
        Munguia was quite happy to go toe to toe with Nelo rounds 1-3 then got countered on the inside and stopped throwing combinations completely and he looked huge in there.

        80% Nelo still easily beats Crawford at 168.
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        • #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          The fights a joke and makes no sense.
          Canelo vs Benavidez or bust!

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          • #25
            Who else would be able to make this fight happen? I don't like fights with 2-3 division jumps. But what can we do? Money talks. It's no longer a challenge for both. It's just for the money.

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            • #26
              Even Vegas money can't compete with Saudi money today.

              I'd prefer to see it in a better atmosphere, just like any fight, but if the Saudis offer them double what they can make in USA then they'd be silly not to take it.

              Its just the way it is. Fury and Usyk could sell out 90,000 tickets Wembley in minutes, but their teams have made it clear that they simply can't match the Saudi money.

              Unless the Saudis branch out to different locations and overpay fighters, then we have to get used to the fact more and more mega fights will be in Saudi. That will also have a knock on effect because it'll come to a point where fighters are even more reluctant to make fights with each other because they will wait out, hoping the Saudis will pick it up

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              • #27
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                That fight still makes multi-millions in Vegas where fans can attend and actually enjoy themselves free of archaic laws.

                This fight happening in Saudi takes it away from us fans who were at Canelo-GGG, who were at Crawford-Spence. Sport without fans is nothing man.

                If you’re the type of guy who would just watch from your TV, it probably won’t bother you and that’s fine, but for the fans that want to attend these super fights, Saudi absolutely kills that experience.

                This fight deserves a sold out crowd of passionate boxing fans, not some oil rich Arabs who don’t really give a crap about the sport. It deserves an atmosphere, it deserves fanfare, it deserves ambience…

                …and it won’t get any of that in Saudi Arabia.
                Tomorrow this guy will make a thread titled go Saudi Arabia

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Feroz View Post
                  I understand Crawford is a P4P fighter who might be better overall when it comes to skill, but honestly just can't see Terrance having enough endurance and punching power to compete at 168.

                  Out of Bud's opponents in the higher weight classes, the closest proxy stylistically to Canelo is Mean Machine who is quite smaller at 147 and has less recourses as a boxer. Yet the Lithuanian's counter punching was difficult to handle until Bud made adjustments in the later half.

                  Just don't think he have the conditioning and reflexes like most fighters without cutting in his optimal weight along while Alvarez is able to rehydrate quite heavier than him. Same fighter who has been dropping bigger boxers like Kovalev, Saunders, Ryder, Plant, Charlo (a 154 pounder who went to survival mode for twelve rounds) and Munguia.

                  Yet fans think a fighter that debuted at lightweight and has been buzzed in three occasions already by Gamboa, Porter and Kavaliauskas is going to be too skilled to avoid getting caught in twelve rounds? Just seems like a big task. Canelo is declining and might eventually lose again to another top fighter, just seems absurd in my perspective that he loses to a fighter coming from three divisions below when he can still contend at the top level.
                  If he is a great fighter, a generational type fighter then I do not see why he cannot move up and fight Canelo. You are looking at it all wrong, yes the fight is at 168lbs, but Crawford only needs to get to a weight he feels comfortable at. Also, Canelo is not a big 168lb fighter, he is actually small for the division. Canelo is a natural middleweight and the only reason he has fought at 168lbs is because he has the skills to do so. It is not because he is a big, natural 168lbs. Just like Paq was able to fight at welterweight when he in no way had the physical size to do so. Mayweather also fought at 154lbs because of his skills not his size.

                  So this excuse that Crawford cannot make 168lbs does not hold water. All the great fighters have fought at much higher weight classes and they did it because their were immense skill set. Toney fought at heavyweight, Sugar Ray Leonard went up to 168lbs when he was a natural welterweight same goes with Duran. Sugar Ray Robinson, Roy Jones, De La Hoya, Henry Armstrong, Whitaker, and others all fought well above their natural weights because they were great fighters. Canelo started out as a welterweight. If Canelo can do so then so can Crawford. Or is Crawford just not talented enough to fight past welterweight. Maybe his name just does not belong with the great fighters of the past and his name does not belong with great fighters of today like Canelo.

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                  • #29
                    This fight is a joke. But if it happens and Canelo washes him, I won`t blame Canelo. We have many ****** people asking for this.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      Tomorrow this guy will make a thread titled go Saudi Arabia
                      You’re such a sad little man aren’t you?

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