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  • Originally posted by messi807 View Post

    Yeah bad decision. Although he did mention his walk-around weight was 140 ish.

    Manny Pacquiao as well as Floyd went as high as 147/154 whilst only walking around at 144-150 throughout there Welterweight days & being immensely undersized. 130 would probably be his ceiling, I’m guessing.
    Barrera and Morales also walked at that weight (141-143) during camp when they fought at 122-126. Wouldn't be shocked if Inoue acclimates up to 130 at the end of his career.
    Last edited by Feroz; 05-06-2024, 07:57 AM.

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    • Originally posted by famicommander View Post
      Inoue's ridiculous resume:
      #10 Ryoichi Taguchi
      #1 Adrian Hernandez
      #1 Omar Narvaez
      #8 Kohei Kono
      #5 Jamie McDonnell
      #5 Juan Carlos Payano
      #6 Emmanuel Rodriguez
      #4 Nonito Donaire
      #8 Jason Moloney
      #2 Nonito Donaire
      #8 Paul Butler
      #1 Stephen Fulton
      #2 Marlon Tapales
      #3 Luis Nery​

      Rankings reflect the TBRB rankings of the opponent in the division they fought at the time of the fight.

      All 14 opponents were reigning, former, and/or future world titlists.
      None of those wins have aged well. How much prime future HOFS are in there? Or elite fighters?

      This exact argument used to be used for Golovkin fights. The argument used to be how he fought the most top 10 ranked fighters. However when it was all said and done everybody forgot due to the lack of competition and elite level opposition.
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      • Originally posted by messi807 View Post

        I don’t think he should have to. But the argument will always be how thin his resume is - in regards to elite fighters.
        Look at the Ring Ratings... The guys ranked 1,2 and now 5 have the same most recent result. A defeat to Inoue.

        He's fighting and beating the best in the division. He's doing it quickly too.

        He's going to have to move up again but I don't think you can knock the standard of his opposition.

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        • Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View Post

          True but its more so their just isnt that much in this era in terms of big names. I mean 122/126 was kinda hot back in 2011-2016 era with Nonito, Mares, Leo, Frampton. Espcally with HBO and Showtime actually being the go to networks building fighters.
          And if they all lost to Inoue then people would complain they weren't strong enough competition.

          I think it's just the downside of being this dominant in a small division. No-one gets to be a star when you've got Inoue in the weight class. He's fighting excellent fighters and beating them - they're not going to be big names when Inoue outshines them.
          Last edited by Toffee; 05-06-2024, 08:01 AM.
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          • Originally posted by messi807 View Post

            None of those wins have aged well. How much prime future HOFS are in there? Or elite fighters?

            This exact argument used to be used for Golovkin fights. The argument used to be how he fought the most top 10 ranked fighters. However when it was all said and done everybody forgot due to the lack of competition and elite level opposition.
            All 14 of those guys are world champions. Golovkin only beat 6 legitimate world titlists in his career (Kassim Ouma, Daniel Geale, David Lemieux, Kell Brook, Danny Jacobs, Ryota Murata), not including the Canelo robberies.

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            • Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
              This was a TaylorMade fight for Inoue.

              Nery was dropped several times after being champ, and he was hurt to the body top.

              Inoue is very strong.

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              Honestly the resume of Inoue is sh.it.

              Only Nery and Fulton are good champs, good champs, not great.

              And if an old Donaire is your Best win at 31 years old, they said a Lot.

              People was hating on Canelo for beat GGG at 35 when he was a new car, without wars.

              Donaire at that time had a Lot of wars.
              Yeah for sure. I mean it’s a solid resume for a guy 122 and below.. but not for a arguable P4P #2/1 fighter.

              Way better competition at 126, 130 and 135. That’s just a known fact. Wasting more time at 122 against B and C level fighters makes no sense to me, just welcoming even more criticism to your level of comp.

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              • Originally posted by messi807 View Post

                None of those wins have aged well. How much prime future HOFS are in there? Or elite fighters?

                This exact argument used to be used for Golovkin fights. The argument used to be how he fought the most top 10 ranked fighters. However when it was all said and done everybody forgot due to the lack of competition and elite level opposition.
                With the difference that Jacobs is way way better than Nery or Fulton.

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                • Originally posted by messi807 View Post

                  Who was the fighter that just got in the ring with Inoue?
                  Looks like another mismatch
                  Goodman is probably the best fight on paper stylistically. He made Aleem look awful.

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                  • Originally posted by messi807 View Post

                    He can defend that belt 1000’s times over against B level fighters. It’s not going to help.

                    Manny Pacquiao had never been unified, better yet undisputed. Neither had Floyd been undisputed. Inoue will never reach that pinnacle.. no matter how much Butler’s, Nerys, Rodriguez’s & Moloney’s he fights.
                    The fact that he's even being placed in the same conversation with Pac/Mayweather shows that Inoue is already held in high esteem. Again, Inoue's legacy will be just fine. Not everyone attains HOF or ATG status in the same manner. A Undisputed champion defending his throne has historic value. If you'd prefer to ignore his career until he does something or fights someone that impresses you, then feel free to do so.
                    Last edited by kiaba360; 05-06-2024, 08:04 AM.
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                    • For the people saying he should just move up again, remember that Crawford spent three and a half years at 147 fighting the Jeff horns,amir khans,kell brooks,and mean machines (who also dropped him) before he actually fought porter,and it was 5 years at 147 before he fought Spence. Many people who are crying for him to move up only want him to lose due to size,not skill.
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