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  • sbbigmike
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    #61
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

    absolute peak manny Cotto fight

    he still struggled with cutting the ring off and ate counters for it in that fight

    manny lacks skillset coupled with size to repeatedly push Floyd to the ropes and get work done
    Floyd and even canelo struggled with cotto themselves

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    • djtmal
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      #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      More like he feared pac would hurt him, rather than wasn't confident he'd best Pac.
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      I think it was the speed and angles Manny was operating with that Mayweather feared most. Getting hit with s%%t he couldn't see. Floyd prefers seeing everything coming at him.

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        #63
        Originally posted by sbbigmike

        Floyd and even canelo struggled with cotto themselves
        even canelo

        canelo isn’t on either’s level

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        • !! Shawn
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          #64
          Floyd had problems with every fast south paw he fought before Manny. There is the sparring with Collazo that got everyone up in arms, getting dropped and pretty well dominated by Zab Judah for the 4 round Judah was ever able to fight, he got rocked by Mitchell the fight before.

          The shoulder roll just is not a very good defense vs southpaws for an orthodox fighters, lots of holes, and Floyd avoided south paws when he could because he had a lot of problems, like Paul Williams.

          There is a reason he waited until he did to fight Pacquio. Pac with legs and able to create lots of angles would have been a real nightmare of a night for Floyd.

          Floyd might have been able to figure it out, but he wasn't going to do it in a JMM or Morales get busy in the trenches with him way.

          It would have been a very very hard night. I think the outcome might be the same, but a much harder night for Floyd.

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            #65
            Originally posted by -Kev-

            It’s too bad Pacquiao and Roach were too scared to take Olympic style blood testing, after first saying they have no issues with it. You remember that? What stopped the fight from happening was Pacquiao saying no to stricter testing? The same strict testing that is basically the norm now.

            Mayweather had agreed to 50-50, all he asked for was random blood testing, that both would be subjected too. That was back in 2009-2010.

            And to think that these same clowns talking about Pacquiao would’ve won, were the same one’s defending Pacquiao for not wanting to take random testing.

            The nerves on these clowns.
            Dude, time has passed, let's not pretend anyone was clean. Everyone still thought Lance Armstrong was clean back then too. The reality is, when that much money is at stake, everyone cheats if they think they can get away with it.

            We can safely assume that everyone during the Balco era was on the gear, if not from Conte, then from someone else. Testing was way behind what was being used at high level sports. Basically every major star athlete from there period was on something.

            Lets remember how great olympic style testing did for you know... the olympics. Oh wait... it dropped the ball there didn't it?

            The reality is, testing has only ever been to give the impression to the public of propriety.

            Let's not forget the WADA banned IV with the the****utic use exemption. Except, WADA doesn't provide the****utic use exceptions for needles going into your arm unless it's for Insulin for a diabetic or hemophilia clotting agents.

            Which of those was Floyds under?

            Yeah Floyd doing WADA Olympic testing, then violating WADA rules before the fight, because it wasn't actually.

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            • STREET CLEANER
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              #66
              Originally posted by sbbigmike

              He was roided fights 3-4 and ducked testing for Bradley if I recall .. Manny had no business even giving him the time of day after fight 2 let alone 3
              JMM was roided and Pac never was? Is there proof of this?

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              • BodyBagz
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                #67
                Pac feasted on plodding, face first types.
                PBF beat every type of style....usually by KO/TKO

                It's a shame Pac was too scared to take random BLOOD tests
                It's also a shame Bob needed to build a stadium for the fight

                TeamPac knew they had better not fight PBF in the ring.
                The only place they stood a chance was in a courtroom setting

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                • Stuntman Mike
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz

                  Pac bois are not known for having logic.
                  Pac let a part time school teacher bully and rob him

                  Imagine Maidana vs Pac
                  Maidana vs khan happened too

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                    Maidana vs khan happened too
                    Both guys on their worst days > prime Horn

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz
                      Pac feasted on plodding, face first types.
                      :
                      Floyd never met a slow flat footed come forward short armed fighter he didn't cherrypick

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