Does Wilders reach give him more power in hooks?

[automaton89]

Having longer limbs means, more bone/muscle/tendons coming with the punch. u.

not necessarily since you can have low bone density. And Wilder is such an example. That's why I compared him to Mike Tyson who is the opposite.

[automaton89]

. As we know, longer limbs also means you're more vulnerable to guys with shorter, compact type punches that can get in and close the gap quickly. Longer arms need to travel further to land, plus need room and in boxing where every millisecond matters, it can mean the difference of your punch landing vs the other guys punch. It's also makes inside fighting more difficult.

Though if you know how to use height/reach, you should be effective at keeping the other guy off you.

My wiry hooks were enough to make the Tyson style fighter back down, even though I didn't have room to catch him fully.. But let's not forget that wiry guys have the uppercut as an option. Lennox Lewis spammed that a lot against shorter fighters on the the inside.

[ELPacman]

not necessarily since you can have low bone density. And Wilder is such an example. That's why I compared him to Mike Tyson who is the opposite.

How do you know Wilder has low bone density? If anything, I'd imagine they're high. Dude is skinny af and has weighed as high as nearly 250lbs.

[automaton89]

How do you know Wilder has low bone density? If anything, I'd imagine they're high. Dude is skinny af and has weighed as high as nearly 250lbs.

If his wrists are thin, he obviously has less bone than someone with thick ones. Wilder weighs a lot because he is very tall and he did put muscles on at one point.

[4truth]

That was a terrible hook, he basically slapped him, if Wilder could throw a left hook probably he could’ve finished Fury there, he was already on the way down from the right hand, a follow up left look would’ve been lights out.

If he had a decent hook, Fury would not have beat the count

[billeau2]

You don't extend the arm anyway in hooks so does extra reach actually grant more power in any way shape or form?

Let's for argument sake compare a thick boned short arm like Mike Tyson, vs thin bone long arm like wilder.

Will Wilders hook have more power because it starts further away from the target due to broader shoulders?

Depends how you throw it to some degree. Ryan is a perfect example. His hook is not compact. It makes more of a circle... A hook can be looked at as two punches (bare with me lol) A straight shot, and another shot delivered at the end of the straight shot at a 45 degree angle. This is the textbook hook dempsey threw in the proverbial phone booth.

The thing is, how one pivots to get that nice straight shot... and the longer your reach the more centripedial force (circular) you can "cheat" with by arcing at greater than a 45 degree angle on the shot. And many times this is what guys with reach do... Look at Cooney as a prime example. He was big and long enough that he could set up with a step and throw the hook with some distance on it. Ryan does not take a step but throws his shoulder at such an angle that he also gets some reach on his hook.

As far as anatomy and the hook, the power is, as with all punching, in the spine. Specifically the muscles that control how we turn, use the hips and legs. The arms just deliver the energy into the target. Hey!!! punches are like chi balls!! lol. But seriously, when Tyson hits you his arms could beany size, as long as they can deliver the energy from the kinetic chain, into the target.

[billeau2]

not necessarily since you can have low bone density. And Wilder is such an example. That's why I compared him to Mike Tyson who is the opposite.

YOu guys are mixing up different characteristics that have nothing to do with punching. Bone density translates as specific density, mass, which we call, by application, weight. The weight of something creates the potential for more force, key word here: POTENTIAL. Muscle mass is the same.

A great analogy!!! I buy a Tesla and when the battery is charged have lots of fun, only to wind up with a giant paper weight... Teslas are heavy and without energy to drive them are useless, like Musk himself! Bone density and muscle mass are nothing without a driver. This is why, BTW people mistake heavyweights with necessarily being the hardest punchers. You can theoretically have a strong punch below heavyweight, within certain limits, IF you properly leverage speed and where you put your weight through technique.

[ELPacman]

If his wrists are thin, he obviously has less bone than someone with thick ones. Wilder weighs a lot because he is very tall and he did put muscles on at one point.

I don't think density has to do entirely with thickness. I mean, you can have a guy who doesn't drink a lot of milk and his bones snap easily from doing just about any small activity. On the other hand a guy who drinks a lot of milk but has skinny bones, they won't snap as easy and perhaps might even weigh more? That's where I was going with that. I got skinny wrists but can bench 315lbs no problem. I've seen guys with thicker wrists doing less and claim it hurts their wrists when they bench over 275lbs.

I also used to do backyard style WWE wrestling when I was younger and never broke a bone once despite being slammed all over the place including through fences, lol. On the other hand a buddy had his collar bone snapped like a twig. Need to drink your milk yo.

[automaton89]

I don't think density has to do entirely with thickness. I mean, you can have a guy who doesn't drink a lot of milk and his bones snap easily from doing just about any small activity. On the other hand a guy who drinks a lot of milk but has skinny bones, they won't snap as easy and perhaps might even weigh more? That's where I was going with that. I got skinny wrists but can bench 315lbs no problem. I've seen guys with thicker wrists doing less and claim it hurts their wrists when they bench over 275lbs.

I also used to do backyard style WWE wrestling when I was younger and never broke a bone once despite being slammed all over the place including through fences, lol. On the other hand a buddy had his collar bone snapped like a twig. Need to drink your milk yo.

Okey, the amount of bones, then. Youve seen his calfes? He has very thin bones everywhere

[automaton89]

YOu guys are mixing up different characteristics that have nothing to do with punching. Bone density translates as specific density, mass, which we call, by application, weight. The weight of something creates the potential for more force, key word here: POTENTIAL. Muscle mass is the same.

A great analogy!!! I buy a Tesla and when the battery is charged have lots of fun, only to wind up with a giant paper weight... Teslas are heavy and without energy to drive them are useless, like Musk himself! Bone density and muscle mass are nothing without a driver. This is why, BTW people mistake heavyweights with necessarily being the hardest punchers. You can theoretically have a strong punch below heavyweight, within certain limits, IF you properly leverage speed and where you put your weight through technique.

Any heavyweight can put proper leverage into a strike if they choose to