Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia Predicts Haney Would Beat Tank Davis

[Boricua181]

Ryan's on a high right now trying to indicate the guy he just beat would beat the guy that beat him. I don't see that at all. Haney's chin has been exposed more than ever now. Any fighter with power is going to take it to Haney. I think Tank would run through Haney and actually get the stoppage. Something Ryan didn't do.

Now if Ryan vs Tank at a higher weight? That would be interesting. It would give Ryan more confidence going into it and I think he would have a better shot to win, but doesn't mean he necessarily would still. He himself has been dropped more than a couple times, so we can't say he has a great chin either.

You bring up some great points in post ELPackman, Rayan's bull****ting plain and simple for all he's worth, Tank would destroy Haney,
All of the punchers in the division aren't only going to be knocking on Haney's door, they're going to be knocking it down just to get a chance to test his fractured chin.
I definitely would love to see Garcia vs Davis in a rematch at 144 pounds like Ryan has recently suggested, that would be interesting as hell.
Not that Ryan would win, but he'd have a better chance of winning then he had the first time around at a catch weight, and a limited re-hydration clause.
Ryan has been dropped twice in his career, but got up once to win by TKO, and was clear eyed when he took a knee, and was counted out by Tank.
Ryan will get rocked, dropped, and stopped again in the future, it will be interesting to watch how his crazy career unfolds.
I can't stand all of his drama leading up to his fights though.

[billeau2]

I started posting about boxing years ago... Always been a martial arts guy wanting to learn from those who box and know the game... The longer I post, the more I realize fellow posters here are quite correct, that as they say in New York "I don't know nuthin!" err feel free to post you disagree!

I first learned years ago how styles make fights. That took a few to absorb... And over the last years, I have began to understand how weight class is so integral to how a match plays out.

Haney fighting Tank would have to be at a catch weight for sure. Tank belongs in a different weight class, even a catch weight would not be enough to make the fight work imo. Tank should fight up to maybe 145... Haney is too big for that weight.

Tank is a protected fighter... He made sure Garcia was a skeleton and the one big puncher he fought (Santa Cruz) was much smaller than him. Is Tank really talented? Yes, but I believe Cruz beat him. Haney now has experience against a wide range of fighters. If he can survive the beating he took, he can become more able to use his jab properly... He has a great jab which was not operating well against Ryan imo.

IF, biiigggg IF, Tank and Haney could find a weight, and Haney used his jab properly, I agree with Ryan.

[4truth]

At 140 pounds, I think he might. For one thing I think Haney would fight more cautiously and be able to use distance and his jab to keep Tank out of range.

[billeau2]

I disagree ring IQ isn't in play. I thought it was a much more interesting fight when I had a higher opinion of Devin's IQ pre-Ryan & him not having answers for the left hook. Tank took away Ryan's left hook. Devin couldn't. Thats big to me talking about ring IQ.

I'm not saying size isn't in play or that it wouldn't be competitive tbf, size often plays a role & hell Devin was competitive despite getting dropped 3x by Ryan imo, but I don't think size is THAT big of a determining factor.

The fighting on the outside thing could play a part, but Devin is usually the faster guy in the ring & can do guys like he did Regis. I don't think he was the faster guy vs Ryan & I don't think he'd be faster vs Tank either. Altho Tank is probably less dynamic with his speed than Ryan.

And again I'm not making Tank beating Devin my lock pick of the year or anything. I'm just saying I'd favor Tank to win & I'd be surprised if that wasn't the consensus among reasonable fans (no Tank or Devin fanboy opinions) if the fight did get made.

Roy Jones was so fast that the fact that he favored a hook was academic... He could take a man's jab out of play with a feint and his speed, despite the hook having an arc. Ryan has power in his hook and he throws it kind of weird, off angle, but its hard for me to think he gets the speed over Haney's jab. It shocked me that haney did not use the jab to more effect.

I can't see how Ryan is faster on the draw, with his hook than Haney's jab, yet there it was lol. Its like Haney just got tentative... Thats the only explanation I can think of.

[greglory]

I'm backing Haney also vs Davis. Davis at 140 is really pushing it he is a very small guy.

You mean the guy that starched big Mario Barrios, who beat the breaks off of even bigger Ugas, and more than held his own against Thurman...ok.

[Butt stuff]

I have never seen Haney being able to defeat Tank

Yeah when Haney, Teo, Tank and Garcia were hot ****. The clear wins were Tank and Teo over Haney.

Not sure about Teo over Haney now though.

[Boricua181]

So, Tank stops Garcia. Garcia whips Haney. But according to Garcia, Haney can whip Tank? Yeah, people were right in thinking Garcia is a little loopy!

It was as ****** a comment as he could come up with, but he's full of ****** comment's.
He also thinks he some kind of actor, he's a narcissist, and that aspect of his character might cost him dearly someday.

[daggum]

Barrios is a much better fighter than people give him credit for, his fight against Thurman could've been scored a draw.
He had Thurman on the verge of defeat, it's a testament to Thurman's chin, guts, and heart that he was able to finish the fight.

thurman won almost every round but maybe this is a joke post?

[daggum]

You mean the guy that starched big Mario Barrios, who beat the breaks off of even bigger Ugas, and more than held his own against Thurman...ok.

tank drained barrios. no credit for that just like no credit for tank against garcia. tank has to stop that crap but he wont. his fans obviously dont care even after railing against catchweights, rehydration clauses, peds, etc..they look the other way when a guy they like does it. no credibility. ugas was old, inactive, and coming off a ko loss and thurman easily beat barrios. this is such a reach to now pretend tank is fighting legit fighters because he beat barrios who was a clear as day cherry pick over a guy who was coming off gift decision himself over akhmedov and then to drain him?

[dannnnn]

I could see it. I would pick Tank to win but I could envision a Haney win too.

Garcia got to Haney because he took risks and was prepared to take one to land one, Tank doesn't fight like that. He's a counter-puncher who is very good at setting up his opponent and capitalising on mistakes, but he's not an aggressive risk-taker.

If Haney were to fight a purely defensive fight at range behind the jab I could see him banking enough early rounds to see it through to a decision win.