Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Haney vs. Garcia Breakdown, The Future Of Boots, Crawford-Madrimov Talk And Young Stars

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Daily Bread Mailbag: Haney vs. Garcia Breakdown, The Future Of Boots, Crawford-Madrimov Talk And Young Stars
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[wrecksracer]

Bread danced around that Boots PBC affiliation. Yes, he appeared on some of their cards against PBC talent. However, he won't ever get a shot against their top guys without being signed to them. He's going to have to run out his Matchroom contract fighting lower level guys now, unless the Saudis come in with insane money to fight Crawford.

[Joseph]

I get liking specific fighters; I have about fifteen or so that I will root for no matter what, but Bread seems to get VERY defensive every time Boots is mentioned in a negative manner, even if someone makes a good point.

[brettWall]

Bread danced around that Boots PBC affiliation. Yes, he appeared on some of their cards against PBC talent. However, he won't ever get a shot against their top guys without being signed to them. He's going to have to run out his Matchroom contract fighting lower level guys now, unless the Saudis come in with insane money to fight Crawford.

Only "PBC talent" you can speak of that was given to Ennis was a career 140 guy Lipinets. The rest like Dulorme, Clayton, Karen, Villa can take fights everywhere. Either Ennis' team avoided fights available to them at PBC or PBC didn't cooperate. Guys like Kavaliauskas, Stanionis, Barrios, Ugas, Butaev at some point. He could have taken those fights to stay busy.

[SteveM]

Only "PBC talent" you can speak of that was given to Ennis was a career 140 guy Lipinets. The rest like Dulorme, Clayton, Karen, Villa can take fights everywhere. Either Ennis' team avoided fights available to them at PBC or PBC didn't cooperate. Guys like Kavaliauskas, Stanionis, Barrios, Ugas, Butaev at some point. He could have taken those fights to stay busy.

Could he have taken those fights? Those fighters need to agree to fight Boots and will demand a lot of money to likely lose. PBC needs them to be against each other - way more money to be made and kept in house. Part of the issue is Ennis' own promotion not working diligently enough to get him fights which was why he sued them.

So PBC had the fighters but I'd say they look after their own signed fighters first - and even they are very inactive. Why was Stanionis hung out to dry with Ortiz 3 times? He could have fought other PBC fighters. So PBC are not even keeping their own fighters very active.

Ennis just wants to fight more than he did before. Whether Eddie Hearn can help him looks doubtful but it looks unlikely to be worse.

[brettWall]

Could he have taken those fights? Those fighters need to agree to fight Boots and will demand a lot of money to likely lose. PBC needs them to be against each other - way more money to be made and kept in house. Part of the issue is Ennis' own promotion not working diligently enough to get him fights which was why he sued them.

So PBC had the fighters but I'd say they look after their own signed fighters first - and even they are very inactive. Why was Stanionis hung out to dry with Ortiz 3 times? He could have fought other PBC fighters. So PBC are not even keeping their own fighters very active.

Ennis just wants to fight more than he did before. Whether Eddie Hearn can help him looks doubtful but it looks unlikely to be worse.

Nah, Ennis' team never pursued those fights. You should be watching Bozy's interviews. They're all there on Youtube where every time a youtuber mentions a name he immediately shuts it down, ie, nothing to gain from a Kavaliauskas, Benn, Ellis, etc. He went running to Espinoza when BLK offered the Crawford fight. He was so angry why BLK would even pull such thing off.

As for Stanionis, Stan was waiting for offers from PBC, mainly the Spence mandatory, which he filed a petition for. He's promoted at that time by Schaefer, who is allied with Haymon/Espinoza/PBC/SHO. Vergil Ortiz, who is with GBP, have aggressively been going after Stanionis for their WBA secondary title shot. He finally got it and was ordered nine full months after Stan's last fight. Nine full months Stanionis was available for any PBC fight. He never got any offers. Schaefer never wanted to work with GBP but it was ordered, so he had to work with nemesis GBP, albeit reluctantly. But what can he do, there were no offers from PBC. No offers coming from Boots' camp. None, nada, zero.

I don't know what you believe, but fighters like Kavaliauskas, Stanionis, etc. would fight monsters just to feed themselves and their families. The thought of pricing themselves out is out of the ordinary. They have everything to gain, but less to lose.