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  • #21
    Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
    In defense Floyd is the last Lineal champ, no welter fighting today other than Judah has held that throne.
    So PBF became the lineal champ just to hang that tittle in his wall next to his highschool diploma...

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
      What performance would put him higher than 35 P4P? Judah?

      He looked awful against Clottey and would have prob been a draw if it was in a neutral place. He quit against Margarito. Jennings and Gomez were laughable wins. Judah was Cotto's last good fight.
      What about wins against too-slow Baldomir, over-the-hill ODLH, puny-over-rated Hatton and outweighted JMM??? Cotto beated SSM, none else in WW Divison can claim that win.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
        The Collazo ranking is disrespectful, but who has Mike Jones beat to be mentioned?

        Gomez' contender wins and a shot Gatti are better than anything Jones has done.
        Agreed with this post.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
          In defense Floyd is the last Lineal champ, no welter fighting today other than Judah has held that throne.
          Fair enough. But you can't blame the top fighters for Floyd not wanting to fight them, therefore not allowing them a chance at that designation. It would be different if we were talking one of the top welters, but Floyd doesn't want any of them. At some point you have to start ranking around that ridiculousness and judge the fighters by who they are fighting now, not who they beat 3 years ago.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Fair enough. But you can't blame the top fighters for Floyd not wanting to fight them, therefore not allowing them a chance at that designation. It would be different if we were talking one of the top welters, but Floyd doesn't want any of them. At some point you have to start ranking around that ridiculousness and judge the fighters by who they are fighting now, not who they beat 3 years ago.
            Right on the bull's eye!!!!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Fair enough. But you can't blame the top fighters for Floyd not wanting to fight them, therefore not allowing them a chance at that designation. It would be different if we were talking one of the top welters, but Floyd doesn't want any of them. At some point you have to start ranking around that ridiculousness and judge the fighters by who they are fighting now, not who they beat 3 years ago.
              Floyd retired for health reasons for the good of the sport so he could come back fresher, stronger, better for crying out loud. Cotto has never won a title that wasnt vacated, speaks volumes.

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              • #27
                1.Floyd
                2.Mosley
                3.Cotto or margarito

                the rest don't matter.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                  Floyd retired for health reasons for the good of the sport so he could come back fresher, stronger, better for crying out loud. Cotto has never won a title that wasnt vacated, speaks volumes.
                  You're twisting the topic my friend. Health reasons or not, he wasn't fighting the best welters back then, and he is already saying he won't fight the best welter right now. How does that make him number one?

                  As far as Cotto goes.......I don't put much stock in any of the titles today. They're all watered down and make crazy things up just to collect more sanctioning fee's.

                  What I do put stock into is a fighter willing to fight the best fighters in his weight class. Say what you will of Cotto's titles, but he's consistently fighting the best fighters in his division and not crying which one will bring him the most money.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                    Floyd retired for health reasons for the good of the sport so he could come back fresher, stronger, better for crying out loud. Cotto has never won a title that wasnt vacated, speaks volumes.
                    Someone alreadt took care of this meaningless blabber...

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      You're twisting the topic my friend. Health reasons or not, he wasn't fighting the best welters back then, and he is already saying he won't fight the best welter right now. How does that make him number one?

                      As far as Cotto goes.......I don't put much stock in any of the titles today. They're all watered down and make crazy things up just to collect more sanctioning fee's.

                      What I do put stock into is a fighter willing to fight the best fighters in his weight class. Say what you will of Cotto's titles, but he's consistently fighting the best fighters in his division and not crying which one will bring him the most money.
                      Wasnt fighting the best? So if he fought the last two lineal champs he wasnt fighting the best? Which is it guy.

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