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Originally posted by DaNeutral. View PostFkk David Benavidez. Canelo in 1 year built a better 168lb resume than David has in a career at thr weight. There's a solid list of Boxers Benavidez hasn't faced at that weight while Canelo can only be accused of not facing 1. Yet ppl only ever seem to want to criticise Canelo.
Benavidez climbed up through the ranks and is interim with the WBC, not Ranked #1 anymore for a title shot, but "interim" - if you know what it means.
How else are fighters supposed to get a title shot? Should we just say **** the rank system and fight a bunch of nobodies with any names?
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Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View PostI'm still at a loss at how bumavidez moving up puts more pressure on carnela? Fat bastard would probably have trouble getting back down to 168 afterwardsLast edited by garfios; 04-16-2024, 12:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Smash View Post
mando for 3 yrs apparently
The rankings at 168 are meaningless because Canelo and the alphabet organizations have made them that way. If they give the undeserving guys random shots and don't order the ones who have been waiting for years, they're totally absent of meaning.Smash likes this.
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
The guy who has been mandatory for 3 years is Morrell, not Benavidez. Morrell became mandatory January 2021. Benavidez not until May 2022. It's not even been 2 years for Benavidez yet, and unlike the WBA and IBF, Canelo DID fight his WBC mandatory already, even if we should all have questions about how Yildirim became WBC mandatory.
The rankings at 168 are meaningless because Canelo and the alphabet organizations have made them that way. If they give the undeserving guys random shots and don't order the ones who have been waiting for years, they're totally absent of meaning.
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Originally posted by Smash View Post
i presume then that benny has been interim wbc champ for 3 years so? i read an article where they clearly gave the 3 yr mark as something or maybe im getting mixed up which is quite possible as well
Morrell became WBA (regular) January 2021, nearly a year and a half before Benavidez. The only time the WBA has been defended in the last 4 years was Smith defending against Canelo. Canelo won the vacant WBC then too, and then defended that belt vs WBC mandatory Avni Yildirim on Feb 27, 2021. After that, he beat Saunders for the WBO in May 2021, then Plant in November 2021. Unless that counted as a mandatory defense for Plant, or the Golovkin fight counted as a mandatory for the IBF, the IBF belt was last defended by Plant against mandatory Caleb Truax Jan 30, 2021. Then Canelo defended v WBO mandatory Ryder in May 2023. I don't see how Charlo could have satisfied any mandatory either. So that's the full mandatory history of 168.
Meaning Morrell has the longest claim, as of the beginning of 2021, followed by the IBF. Both have not been defended against a mandatory in 3 years, and even if you count Plant v Canelo, it's still been longer for both than Benavidez' claim that doesn't start until May 2022.Last edited by crimsonfalcon07; 04-16-2024, 12:48 PM.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View PostOriginally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
Fkk David Benavidez. Canelo in 1 year built a better 168lb resume than David has in a career at thr weight. There's a solid list of Boxers Benavidez hasn't faced at that weight while Canelo can only be accused of not facing 1. Yet ppl only ever seem to want to criticise Canelo
Honestly, you are right.
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
No, he won his interim WBC May 21, 2022 v David Lemieux.
Morrell became WBA (regular) January 2021, nearly a year and a half before Benavidez. The only time the WBA has been defended in the last 4 years was Smith defending against Canelo. Canelo won the vacant WBC then too, and then defended that belt vs WBC mandatory Avni Yildirim on Feb 27, 2021. After that, he beat Saunders for the WBO in May 2021, then Plant in November 2021. Unless that counted as a mandatory defense for Plant, or the Golovkin fight counted as a mandatory for the IBF, the IBF belt was last defended by Plant against mandatory Caleb Truax Jan 30, 2021. Then Canelo defended v WBO mandatory Ryder in May 2023. I don't see how Charlo could have satisfied any mandatory either. So that's the full mandatory history of 168.
Meaning Morrell has the longest claim, as of the beginning of 2021, followed by the IBF. Both have not been defended against a mandatory in 3 years, and even if you count Plant v Canelo, it's still been longer for both than Benavidez' claim that doesn't start until May 2022.
so what does all of this mean?
is canelo holding up the entire division? should he just be stripped of all belts and told to sling his hook?
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Originally posted by QballLobo View PostMaybe David should have had more respect for himself and not lost his title on the scales by being unprofessional or not being able to stay off that nose candy.
Now his next fight is on someone else’s undercard while he’s begging for that Canelo payday. Sad ****.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostWhy does Benavidez only speak to and through the media? If he wants to fight Alvarez, then in my opinion he should confront him within physical reality 'This situation has reached that stage where those specific old school tactics need to be used'.
The only respect Alvarez needs to show Benavidez, is if they ever fight 'And that is to prepare optimally, and not cheat'.
Note: Benavidez believes he is a more important and bigger fighter than he actually is in terms of 'Historical significance'. Alvarez has fought many fighters who were greater than Benavidez both in terms of skill for skill ability and achievement.
Benavidez is a solid fighter, but in reality? He is not on the level of Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto in terms of ability or career achievements.
It just seems very straight forward to me, if Benavidez really wants this fight 'Then the stage is set'. Canelo Alvarez is not going to be difficult to find during the fight week of Munguia vs Alvarez.
This would be a great opportunity for Benavidez to confront Alvarez, within physical reality 'And challenge him like a contender' etc.
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