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  • #61
    Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post

    Why wouldn't he face Kelly if a belt is on the line? Obviously he would prefer the biggest fights but if the plan is to fight Canelo moving through the weights then there is less need to fight Spence or the Charlos. If those fights come then great but if not he'll be testing himself against bigger guys on route anyway.
    I think Kelly has looked decent at 154, but it's TC's purse demands that I'm most concerned about. If TC is looking for high 7 figures/low 8 figures, can Wasserman even afford him? Josh isn't necessarily a proven commodity in the UK, and TC doesn't have promotional backing. This isn't unique to Kelly. If Kelly passes on the fight, then I think Lubin will face a similar issue. If TC will only get in the ring for mega $$$, then he might as well retire. I love watching him fight, but he may not be worth the investment for a lot of promoters.
    Last edited by kiaba360; 04-02-2024, 02:19 AM.
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    • #62
      All these clowns at Welter running away from Boots...
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post

        Hadn't Crawford effectively accepted the split already by enforcing the mandatory route? Isn't it really that Fundora can earn more fighting Spence in a voluntary for the WBC where there is more scope for negotiation?
        There's a pre-determined 80-20 split if it goes to purse bid, which Crawford likely won't accept, but the split can be whatever the two sides agree to if they get a deal done before.

        Essentially Fundora likely has a get-out-of-jail-free card: if they don't like what the deal is for Crawford, they can let it go to purse bid and get 80%. If Crawford somehow agrees to fight for only 20% after purse bid, they have the option to drop the WBO belt and still be the WBC champion if they wanna fight Tszyu or Spence instead.

        Another wrinkle here is that it's believed Amazon isn't bankrolling a significant budget to PBC, so that fight going to purse bid could (and in my opinion would) lead to DAZN bidding for and getting that fight... which makes a purse bid/80-20 situation even less likely to happen.
        Last edited by paulf; 04-02-2024, 09:58 AM.
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        • #64
          It's not up to him honestly. Unless he wants to see himself get stripped of the title.

          Plus, Crawford has no interest.

          I know he has been chatting s.hit on twitter but reality is, Crawford could have fought Tszyu and chose not to. Then could have easily stepped in for Thurman and chose not to again.

          Fundora is NOT one of these big money fights Crawford has been talking about when he brushes off the Jaron Ennis match talks.

          So, when you add all these things up.... can Crawford fight Fundora? Sure.

          Will he? By all signs of the man's actions.... No. Resoundingly.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Combat Talk Radio
            Sorry, WBO. You know like the world knows:

            What you’re REALLY telling that young man, is to agree to fight Crawford for 20% of the split. Because he’d have to in order for Crawford to get his pay demands met.

            At least with Spence, you might 35/40.
            that is because spence took a MAJOR beat down when he finally fought the top guy, and Crawford is that top guy. pretty simple really.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Combat Talk Radio

              No, it's because Crawford refuses to take anything less than 50% in a fight AND since he holds three of the 147 titles, likely much higher, whereas Spence really has no choice but to accept lower pay given his position. He even said so himself and his honesty has to be respecked.

              However, what you just saw is Errol pulling "Big Fish" maneuvers by snatching a Fundora fight he probably doesn't even deserve. Why?

              Because despite the win, Crawford "can't sell out a family reunion", has been just as inactive, ducked Boots Ennis and got stripped of one of the titles.

              Top guys don't have that happen to them. Ask Devin Haney - a true top guy.
              You are the top bullchitter
              Ask anyone on NSB and I’m sure they will say the same
              Smfh
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              • #67
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post

                I know he has been chatting s.hit on twitter but reality is, Crawford could have fought Tszyu and chose not to. Then could have easily stepped in for Thurman and chose not to again.

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                Could have easily stepped in on 12 days notice ? While not in an active training camp? How was he gonna even get in the card lol while not signed to PBC ?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post

                  Hadn't Crawford effectively accepted the split already by enforcing the mandatory route? Isn't it really that Fundora can earn more fighting Spence in a voluntary for the WBC where there is more scope for negotiation?
                  WBO grants him 75% automatically vs Fundora, that's what his manager said yesterday. He said the Crawford fight has to be negotiated outside the standard purse rules for the WBO because he refuses to accept less than 50%
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                  • #69
                    Alot of Boxers must be low key hating on Fundora now haha. Christmas came extra early for him. It’s as if he got a title off of amazon prime deal.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Combat Talk Radio
                      Sorry, WBO. You know like the world knows:

                      What you’re REALLY telling that young man, is to agree to fight Crawford for 20% of the split. Because he’d have to in order for Crawford to get his pay demands met.

                      At least with Spence, you might 35/40.
                      why are you going on about fighters purses ??,

                      Are you part of either fighters team ??

                      Are you getting a cut of the % ??

                      If not ??, stop talking like a little ***** interested in a mans pockets is some weak ass s.h.i.t.

                      Never in the history of boxing in any era have boxing fans been interested in what any fighter gets payed
                      fool.

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