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Bivol is P4P #1 with the best resume in boxing rn... this is irrefutable

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  • Pac had the best resume and had stepped up more divisions than you know who, but was no2 pfp?
    So it's obviously not a mathematical equation that makes you no1, there's more happening under surface

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    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      Pac had the best resume and had stepped up more divisions than you know who, but was no2 pfp?
      So it's obviously not a mathematical equation that makes you no1, there's more happening under surface
      PAC lost to JMM and Morales during his prime run.


      No such argument against Bivol

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      • Originally posted by HeadShots View Post

        PAC lost to JMM and Morales during his prime run.


        No such argument against Bivol
        Losing shouldn't be a barrier to being no1. How does anyone know the boxer ranked above pac wouldn't also lose to them if same size, and fought as good opponents as pac did?
        Pac fought better people, and had better wins that's main thing.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 04-04-2024, 08:53 AM.

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        • Since Roy Jones Junior and Floyd Mayweather Junior 'The pound for pound rankings, are a popularity contest'.

          It is not clear who the best pound for pound fighter is in the world, but there is a group of fighters 'Which have all been regarded as having pound for pound boxing ability'.

          Oleksandr Uysk, Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez, Artur Beterbiev, Dmitry Bivol, Gervonta 'Tank' Davis, Devin Haney, Vasily Lomachenko, Errol Spence Junior.

          Note: For me personally? Out of all of that group of fighters 'Oleksandr Uysk's heavyweight achievements, have been the most impressive physical feats of achievement in boxing in recent times. None of those other fighters have achieved any feats which can compare, from a pure physical perspective'.

          Uysk beat Joshua twice back to back, who was a elite level super heavyweight 'A fighter who out weighed him by 19 to 23 pounds in both fights'.

          So when debating who is the best fighter in the world pound for pound 'I believe you have to analyse the individual performances of the fighters in-depth'.

          Not many of those fighters in that group ? Have better physical feats of achievement on their resumes 'Greater than David Haye's win over Nikolai Valuev. Valuev out weighed Haye by 98 pounds, 7 stone in mass'.

          David Haye weighed in at 218 pounds, Nikolai Valuev weighed in at 315 pounds.

          So really? In the lower weight classes, people in today's modern era get carried away with fighters who wade through the weight classes 'The only reason why they are able to do this, is because they reach stages in within their career's when they decide not to weight drain themselves and fight closer to their natural fighting weight'.

          Terrence Crawford in reality under the 'Same day weigh in rule'. Crawford is most likely a 160 pound fighter.

          Crawford and many of the lower weight class fighters, are all skill for skill great fighters 'But I don't think their individual performances are really great as the media or certain people claim compared to past era's'.

          Their performances are great within the modern era, but not really on a all-time great scale 'When you really analyse all the factors in the performance'.

          Terrence Crawford has stated that outside the ring 'He walks around at 180 + pounds. So him challenging Alvarez, is definitively a legitimate intention. Alvarez on fight night, may only out weigh Crawford by 5 to 10 pounds'.

          Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, David Haye, Oleksandr Usyk 'Those fighters many times throughout their careers, encountered weight differentials that were way more than 10 pounds'.

          Roy Jones Junior and Floyd Mayweather Junior, were pretty much the last real lower weight class fighters 'Who for me, had some really impressive physical feats of achievement combined with skill'.

          Achievements that would of been extremely impressive in any era.





          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-04-2024, 11:18 AM.

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          • Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
            Since Roy Jones Junior and Floyd Mayweather Junior 'The pound for pound rankings, are a popularity contest'.

            It is not clear who the best pound for pound fighter is in the world, but there is a group of fighters 'Which have all been regarded as having pound for pound boxing ability'.

            Oleksandr Uysk, Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez, Artur Beterbiev, Dmitry Bivol, Gervonta 'Tank' Davis, Devin Haney, Vasily Lomachenko, Errol Spence Junior.

            Note: For me personally? Out of all of that group of fighters 'Oleksandr Uysk's heavyweight achievements, have been the most impressive physical feats of achievement in boxing in recent times. None of those other fighters have achieved any feats which can compare, from a pure physical perspective'.

            Uysk beat Joshua twice back to back, who was a elite level super heavyweight 'A fighter who out weighed him by 19 to 23 pounds in both fights'.

            So when debating who is the best fighter in the world pound for pound 'I believe you have to analyse the individual performances of the fighters in-depth'.

            Not many of those fighters in that group ? Have better physical feats of achievement on their resumes 'Greater than David Haye's win over Nikolai Valuev. Valuev out weighed Haye by 98 pounds, 7 stone in mass'.

            David Haye weighed in at 218 pounds, Nikolai Valuev weighed in at 315 pounds.

            So really? In the lower weight classes, people in today's modern era get carried away with fighters who wade through the weight classes 'The only reason why they are able to do this, is because they reach stages in within their career's when they decide not to weight drain themselves and fight closer to their natural fighting weight'.

            Terrence Crawford in reality under the 'Same day weigh in rule'. Crawford is most likely a 160 pound fighter.

            Crawford and many of the lower weight class fighters, are all skill for skill great fighters 'But I don't think their individual performances are really great as the media or certain people claim compared to past era's'.

            Roy Jones Junior and Floyd Mayweather Junior, were pretty much the last real lower weight class fighters 'Who for me, had some really impressive physical feats of achievement combined with skill'.

            Achievements that would of been extremely impressive in any era etc.








            good post


            The point about Joshua would be true if he wasn’t badly beat up and KOed by one Andy Ruiz. He was thoroughly outclassed, rocked and ultimately beaten into submission by a 5’10 my 600 pound life cast member. It was no lucky punch.

            joshua is a very protected and overrated heavyweight champ.



            ramirez is better than Joshua with an iron chin. 2 division champ. And outweighed Bivol in the ring by about 20 lbs.


            we must also consider that Usyk was badly KOed by Dubois in his last outing. We have to be honest and call this what it was. Usyk was KOed by a legal shot.

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            • Originally posted by HeadShots View Post

              Done.

              30 days.

              Perfect

              Bookmarked

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              • Impossible, he is not American or Mexican.

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