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Bivol is P4P #1 with the best resume in boxing rn... this is irrefutable

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  • #91
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    former being the key word. guys like khan and brook were washed and werent ranked. i count 10 ranked opponents but i havent checked the tbrb rankings to be fair just ring
    I am aware that Khan and Brook were washed but most fighters have a few washed titlists on their resumes as well and I list them the same way. It's why I list the titlists and the ranked fighters both; for context. Sometimes a good fighter is unranked because he's moving up or down in weight or coming off some inactivity and the title status can be a good indicator; sometimes a former titlist is super washed and the rankings are a better indicator.

    It's 14 opponents that were ranked by one of TBRB and/or Ring; some were ranked by one but not the other, most were ranked by both:
    Ricky Burns UD12
    Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO9
    Ray Beltran UD12
    Thomas Dulorme TKO6
    Dierry Jean TKO10
    Viktor Postol UD12
    John Molina TKO8
    Felix Diaz RTD10
    Julius Indongo KO3
    Jeff Horn TKO9
    Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO9
    Shawn Porter TKO10
    David Avanesyan KO6
    Errol Spence Jr. TKO9

    Inoue has 13 wins over TBRB or Ring ranked opponents, but all 13 of them were current/former/future world titlists as well. And he's a much younger man, so he figures to rack up several more.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by famicommander View Post
      I am aware that Khan and Brook were washed but most fighters have a few washed titlists on their resumes as well and I list them the same way. It's why I list the titlists and the ranked fighters both; for context. Sometimes a good fighter is unranked because he's moving up or down in weight or coming off some inactivity and the title status can be a good indicator; sometimes a former titlist is super washed and the rankings are a better indicator.

      It's 14 opponents that were ranked by one of TBRB and/or Ring; some were ranked by one but not the other, most were ranked by both:
      Ricky Burns UD12
      Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO9
      Ray Beltran UD12
      Thomas Dulorme TKO6
      Dierry Jean TKO10
      Viktor Postol UD12
      John Molina TKO8
      Felix Diaz RTD10
      Julius Indongo KO3
      Jeff Horn TKO9
      Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO9
      Shawn Porter TKO10
      David Avanesyan KO6
      Errol Spence Jr. TKO9

      Inoue has 13 wins over TBRB or Ring ranked opponents, but all 13 of them were current/former/future world titlists as well. And he's a much younger man, so he figures to rack up several more.



      imagine bringing up ricky burns as one of your best wins


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      • #93
        Originally posted by HeadShots View Post




        imagine bringing up ricky burns as one of your best wins


        Ricky Burns was a reigning lightweight world titlist at the time of the fight, a former super featherweight world titlist, and a future super lightweight world titlist.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by famicommander View Post

          Ricky Burns was a reigning lightweight world titlist at the time of the fight, a former super featherweight world titlist, and a future super lightweight world titlist.
          He was also the guy who needed a blatant robbery to get past Beltran the very fight before he fought Bud. So many of these fighters feast on overrated UK cans and the fans fall for it.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

            He was also the guy who needed a blatant robbery to get past Beltran the very fight before he fought Bud. So many of these fighters feast on overrated UK cans and the fans fall for it.
            Crawford beat Beltran in a lineal/Ring title fight two fights later, and Beltran later went on to win the title himself. Burns losing to Beltran is no shame, especially considering what they both did after the fight in question.

            You can try to nitpick pretty much any given win on any given fighter's resume if you want to. The bottom line is Crawford did something only 8 other guys in the history of boxing did when he became lineal champion of three divisions, and he did something only Holyfield and Inoue have done in the 3 or 4 belt eras when he became undisputed in two divisions. There are plenty of soft divisions and soft champions out there in boxing at any given time, but nobody has been able to cherry pick their way to these accomplishments. So respect the fighters who actually do it.

            Fitzsimmons, Canzoneri, Ross, Armstrong, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Crawford. The only 3 division lineal champions.

            Holyfield, Crawford, and Inoue. The only 2 division undisputed champions of the 3/4 belt era.

            If just anybody could do these things, they would have done them. This isn't Broner or Tank Davis picking off weak titlists. This is becoming the definitive king of three weight classes.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by famicommander View Post

              Crawford beat Beltran in a lineal/Ring title fight two fights later, and Beltran later went on to win the title himself. Burns losing to Beltran is no shame, especially considering what they both did after the fight in question.
              .
              Beltran is a fkn journeyman lol. He had 6 losses at that stage. Imagine trying to bump up Beltran. He won a vacant wbo belt off a 40 year old.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                Ricky Burns was a reigning lightweight world titlist at the time of the fight, a former super featherweight world titlist, and a future super lightweight world titlist.

                Thomas Delorme?








                Where are you performing this stand-up routine? Give me address.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

                  Beltran is a fkn journeyman lol. He had 6 losses at that stage. Imagine trying to bump up Beltran. He won a vacant wbo belt off a 40 year old.

                  Crawfish fanboys embarassing themselves in this thread


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                  • #99
                    Biv has 1 name
                    1 + 0 = 1
                    1 can never be more than 1 unless more is added to it.

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                    • matey had a meltdown when his Chinese Pricey got beat, imagine what happens when Beterbiev splatters Bivol

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