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Bivol is P4P #1 with the best resume in boxing rn... this is irrefutable

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  • #71
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post

    trash resume.

    best win is Spence. very high quality win. that's it.

    Postol was his best win until Porter, then Errol eclipsed that.

    so he has 3 good wins and only 1 of them is as good as Bivol's two best wins.

    how is Spence even a good win? He’s a 1 divipn titlist with 4 defences. He’s not even undisputed.
    He is pure smoke and mirrors. Just undefeated and black like Crawfish. Hyped to the moon by low iq buffoons


    in reality Spence’s resume is on Caleb Plants level. Ded srs

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    • #72
      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post


      how is Spence even a good win? He’s a 1 divipn titlist with 4 defences. He’s not even undisputed.
      He is pure smoke and mirrors. Just undefeated and black like Crawfish. Hyped to the moon by low iq buffoons


      in reality Spence’s resume is on Caleb Plants level. Ded srs
      lmao, then that's giving Crawford no credit at that point.

      I'm not a hater, I can at least give him the win over my boy Spence. Porter is also a decent win and Postol was the guy who beat the guy, so effectively Floyd's Baldomir to Crawford's resume.

      Other than that, I'm not praising Crawford's resume. It's not good for a 3-4 division undisputed champ. Never really cleared any division either. Just waited to pick up the pieces like an opportunist. Right or wrong. It's what he did.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post

        lmao, then that's giving Crawford no credit at that point.

        I'm not a hater, I can at least give him the win over my boy Spence. Porter is also a decent win and Postol was the guy who beat the guy, so effectively Floyd's Baldomir to Crawford's resume.

        Other than that, I'm not praising Crawford's resume. It's not good for a 3-4 division undisputed champ. Never really cleared any division either. Just waited to pick up the pieces like an opportunist. Right or wrong. It's what he did.


        my point is that Spence is the most overrated fighter of this generation. Period.

        he is a 1 division titlist with 4 defences.

        hyped to the moon by morons.

        Crawford didn’t beat the prime version remember. He beat the Spence that was revived from a near fatal car accident. He was knocked unconscious on concrete after being tossed 50 ft from his Ferrari.


        nobody is the same after that chit.


        Be honest with yourself.



        bivol beat absolute peak roids Canelo after he 1 punched Kovalev at LHW and unified SMW. Broke BJS skull with 1 punch


        Undefeated 50-0 Ramirez. Who is now cruiserweight champ



        Last edited by HeadShots; 04-02-2024, 11:03 AM.

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        • #74
          Well, I see where you get your screen name from.

          A win against a natural middleweight and a hypejob weight bully who got a title in possibly the weakest division in the sport do not make for a resume. You're probably one of the ones who thinks that Charlo was a good win for Canelo, or that Bud coming up 3 divisions would be a good win. Maybe he should fight Tank Davis. You'd give him credit for that too. Bivol has zero wins against a current champion in his own division, let alone being able to move up the ranks. If he can beat Beterbiev, and then unify cruiserweight titles, especially vs the winner of Opetaia/Briedis, then we can start talking. Until then, this kind of talk is as premature as a teenager on a first date.

          And I rate Bivol very highly. But this is still ******. Hopefully you're just trolling.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
            Well, I see where you get your screen name from.

            A win against a natural middleweight and a hypejob weight bully who got a title in possibly the weakest division in the sport do not make for a resume. You're probably one of the ones who thinks that Charlo was a good win for Canelo, or that Bud coming up 3 divisions would be a good win. Maybe he should fight Tank Davis. You'd give him credit for that too. Bivol has zero wins against a current champion in his own division, let alone being able to move up the ranks. If he can beat Beterbiev, and then unify cruiserweight titles, especially vs the winner of Opetaia/Briedis, then we can start talking. Until then, this kind of talk is as premature as a teenager on a first date.

            And I rate Bivol very highly. But this is still ******. Hopefully you're just trolling.
            oh look. A low iq casual

            What is Hagler’s best win?

            duran and hearns.

            neither were middleweight champ.



            Imagine calling Canelo a middleweight when he himself couldn’t make middleweight anymore. Became undisputed smw champ and LHW champ


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            • #76
              Originally posted by HeadShots View Post

              oh look. A low iq casual

              What is Hagler’s best win?

              duran and hearns.

              neither were middleweight champ.



              Imagine calling Canelo a middleweight when he himself couldn’t make middleweight anymore. Became undisputed smw champ and LHW champ

              These guys go crazy.

              they just can`t accept the fact that Bivol beat N.1. fighter in sport.

              They want to compare Canelo with Spence lol lol lol...

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              • #77
                Still makes me laugh...90% of guys here predicted Canelo to KO Bivol...

                Now they say poor Canelo was too small





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                • #78
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
                  Well, I see where you get your screen name from.

                  A win against a natural middleweight and a hypejob weight bully who got a title in possibly the weakest division in the sport do not make for a resume. You're probably one of the ones who thinks that Charlo was a good win for Canelo, or that Bud coming up 3 divisions would be a good win. Maybe he should fight Tank Davis. You'd give him credit for that too. Bivol has zero wins against a current champion in his own division, let alone being able to move up the ranks. If he can beat Beterbiev, and then unify cruiserweight titles, especially vs the winner of Opetaia/Briedis, then we can start talking. Until then, this kind of talk is as premature as a teenager on a first date.

                  And I rate Bivol very highly. But this is still ******. Hopefully you're just trolling.
                  Yes and Bivol must also beat Joshua to get in the conversation.

                  Because moving up like 25 lbs is just the same as 6-7 lbs.

                  But id.ots like you predicted Canelo to KO him. And Canelo won light heavy title long before Bivol fought him.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                    Yes and Bivol must also beat Joshua to get in the conversation.

                    Because moving up like 25 lbs is just the same as 6-7 lbs.

                    But id.ots like you predicted Canelo to KO him. And Canelo won light heavy title long before Bivol fought him.
                    You forget I'm one of the people that rates Bivol, and thinks that he's rightly the favorite to beat Beterbiev. But when you're looking at his best win being a guy moving up in weight, who isn't a natural light heavy, and is the smaller guy vs all of his opponents at 168, even when he's dragging them up from two weight divisions below, that's an issue. Bivol was a cherry pick gone wrong. I said at the time that people were sleeping on Bivol. And I give him credit for beating Canelo, but you and I both thought he was supposed to.

                    This argument is really predicated on Canelo being such an amazing win that it outweighs much better resumes, and Zurdo being a good win. The most impressive thing about Zurdo is that he was able to make 168 ever. He got that title shot by beating another guy coming up that 25 lbs you're talking about and coming off a knockout loss to boot. That's how weak cruiserweight is now. You can lose at a lower division and still get an immediate title shot without beating a single contender in the division, or even a guy on a winning streak. This is the same kind of thinking that made Spence "P4P". Limited accomplishments in ONE division. I'm cool with saying he's on the list, but #1? That's flat ******.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



                      my point is that Spence is the most overrated fighter of this generation. Period.

                      he is a 1 division titlist with 4 defences.

                      hyped to the moon by morons.

                      Crawford didn’t beat the prime version remember. He beat the Spence that was revived from a near fatal car accident. He was knocked unconscious on concrete after being tossed 50 ft from his Ferrari.


                      nobody is the same after that chit.


                      Be honest with yourself.



                      bivol beat absolute peak roids Canelo after he 1 punched Kovalev at LHW and unified SMW. Broke BJS skull with 1 punch


                      Undefeated 50-0 Ramirez. Who is now cruiserweight champ


                      If that's your opinion, okay.

                      I don't think he is overrated at all. Not being a multi divisional champ isn't a bad thing.

                      Marvin Hagler is an ATG, never left 160, probably universally recognized as the greatest 160 of all time.

                      Spence was chasing that. Literally cleared the division until he got smoked by Crawford.

                      But either way, Crawford's resume isn't exactly stellar despite being multi divisional, undisputed champ.

                      He is probably the biggest opportunist in boxing history really. never really did it the 'hard way' so to speak. Just jumped for all the chips once the landscape was tattered.

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