MARK MY WORDS: Cotto-Pacquiao does 838K PPV buys...+/-3%

[Stickman]

True, but none of those fights you pointed out had 24/7!! Don't you think B-Hop could've played the "anti-christ role" just as good as Floyd if given the platform like 24/7. Afterall, B-Hop has a ton more "street cred" than that studio gangsta you like to wank to. B-Hop served like 10 years in the pen!

He's got the gift of gab, he is that black man that the white guy fears running into in a dark alley.

And plus, the way they're marketing boxing PPV's these days are somewhat different than before due to the recent rise of the UFC.

Times have changed man, hopefully the boxing gods keep it up. I'd love to see a Super Six in every division, every year!!

Do you seriously think that? I'll let you in on a little secret.....most "white guys" don't give a **** what color the ******* in the ally is.

P.S.
I'm one of the white guys that you'd fear running into in a dark ally.

[mrpain81]

See how Floyd (or Floyd-hate*) gets things all confused?

As a fan of the man's skills, and a sometimes apologist for his boxing-related decisions, Let me say that he has WAAY too much influence on the sport.

Now, you have novices calling every left hook a "check hook".
Nobody EVER called Zab a "front runner: until Floyd did, and the reality is that Zab's rep was the opposite.
People are now viewing 1 million PPV sales as "good" or "solid"

Pain, 800K plus IS "great numbers" .In the history of the sport , the entire history of PPV boxiing, guess how many non-heavyweight, non-Oscar/Floyd events have done 1 million buys? Answer: zero.

Not even Oscar/Shane, Oscar/Hopkins, Oscar/vargas, Oscar/Chavez did 1 million buys.

I;m not saying that you are wrong. "Firepower" may do 1.3 million, and i would be very surprised, and very disappointed in Nostradamus. But the prognostication of 838K is a terrifically high number.

*Pain, not saying that YOU hate Floyd. But many posters are predicting 1.5 million plus bc they can't bear to accept that Floyd just sold a ton of PPV's.

You and I have debated on PPV numbers in the past, you know I have no loyalties. I just say my piece and talk with facts, I have no financial investment in this fight. That's just the number I think it will do, I was predicting the Floyd fight to do great numbers when everyone was saying he wasn't a draw and he would bomb on PPV.

You know this.

Mayweather is a draw! People love to say he can't draw ppv's without a Oscar or a Hatton don't really know what there talking about. They use that excuse because he comes off as a douche and they want to marginalize his drawing power.

They always bring up the B side yet that B side can never sell **** on their own.

how many PPV buy did Gatti get without Mayweather? He never had a PPV outside of that one, even the Oscar vs Gatti was on HBO.

What about Judah?

His fight against Cotto did 220k PPV buys and against Mayweather it was 375k and he was coming off a loss against Baldomir.

Baldomir? That guy wouldn't have been able to see 1k PPV buys without Mayweather.

Oscar? His highest PPV sales ever was 1.4 and now he sells 2.4 million and out of the blue huh? Even DLH couldn't draw without a good dance partner as you see his fight against Campas did 350k and Javier Castilljo did 400k for the highest drawing PPV star ever.

Hatton? He did about the same that Pacquiao did yet Manny is never questioned about his drawing power when a year ago he was doing 200k against David Diaz.

This fight is going to be a big success.

[PensionKiller]

When the angel battles with the pack
In the grand garden
Within a sea of lights
eight hundred and thirty eight thousand bear witness

- Nostradamus

I would like to bet Nostra darmus but he a dead man.

20k Cotto and Pac do more than that Al?

[mrpain81]

One last thing, I'm pretty sure DLH/Hopkins did 1 million PPV buys.

Bernard Hopkins-De La Hoya, 2004, 1 million, $56 million

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2009/09/floyd_mayweathers_comeback_fig.html

[Al Haymon]

True, but none of those fights you pointed out had 24/7!! Don't you think B-Hop could've played the "anti-christ role" just as good as Floyd if given the platform like 24/7. Afterall, B-Hop has a ton more "street cred" than that studio gangsta you like to wank to. B-Hop served like 10 years in the pen!
!!

Box-a-lot,

i'm respectful to everyone on here, and i avoid the silly arguments.

Why are you throwing insults my way? Was there something I said to you?

[civicvx]

Wow 838XXX huh, LOL you even gave the axcat number. I wonder if Vegas bet on PPV buys. Ima bet everything I have on 838,XXX PPV buys.

[BOX-A-LOT]

Do you seriously think that? I'll let you in on a little secret.....most "white guys" don't give a **** what color the ******* in the ally is.

P.S.
I'm one of the white guys that you'd fear running into in a dark ally.

Quit taking what anyone says so seriously and literally. All I'm pointing out is, B-Hop would've played whatever stereotype he needed to play to the hilt, had 24/7 been around for his fight with Queen Hoya.

B-Hop would've done and said whatever it took for that fight to sell!

[Al Haymon]

One last thing, I'm pretty sure DLH/Hopkins did 1 million PPV buys.



http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...eback_fig.html

Here is what I have for that:

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Delahoya – Pacquiao: 1.25 Mil

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

Mayweather – Marquez: 1.1 MIL (pending update)

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

Mayweather - Hatton: 950K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K


Yes, you are right. The initial report was around 960K-ish, and then it rolled to 1 million.

Thanks.

[Stickman]

Quit taking what anyone says so seriously and literally. All I'm pointing out is, B-Hop would've played whatever stereotype he needed to play to the hilt, had 24/7 been around for his fight with Queen Hoya.

B-Hop would've done and said whatever it took for that fight to sell!

That, I agree with. Bernard plays the bad guy, good, and I think he sort of likes it...I know I would, at least a little.

[mrpain81]

Here is what I have for that:

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Delahoya – Pacquiao: 1.25 Mil

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

Mayweather – Marquez: 1.1 MIL (pending update)

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

Mayweather - Hatton: 950K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K


Yes, you are right. The initial report was around 960K-ish, and then it rolled to 1 million.

Thanks.