MARK MY WORDS: Cotto-Pacquiao does 838K PPV buys...+/-3%

[Ravishing]

When the angel battles with the pack
In the grand garden
Within a sea of lights
eight hundred and thirty eight thousand bear witness

- Nostradamus

[Stickman]

Yeah, that one was made up. But there was something about the new city at 45 degrees...no?

NY,NY is at about 40 degrees and change (I think), so it wouldn't apply anyway.

All of the Nostracrap floating around the internet "referring" to 9/11 is made up, or at best, altered from it's original wording to serve an agenda. [EDIT]
Much like the global warming hoax that many world leaders and scientists are using in an attempt to gain more control and power over the individual. If they succeed, we'll be living in a world-wide "Soviet Union" type government. You guys better start praying they don't complete their agenda.

Aside from that, I think anyone who tries to apply the scribblings of a dead frenchman from the dark ages to current world events in an attempt to predict the future, needs either a cat scan, or therapy, or a solid *****-slap to wake them up.

[BOX-A-LOT]

This is how I have come up with this extraordinary number.

Clottey/Cotto did 1.68 million viewers on HBO, it is the third highest rating of the year.

Cotto is a bigger draw in the US compared to Hatton, how many brits bought the PPV in the US with Hatton and Mayweather?? Hatton is a big draw in the UK but the PR PPV's and all the PR's living in the US will be buying this fight.

Believe it or not Pacquaio has transcended the sport of Boxing

You've made some good points. I am however reluctant to agree with your figures, since Floyd's PPV's have consistently topped PAC's. We shall see come 11/14.

I do agree with your statement as far as PAC having transcended the sport. This was evident in his last fight against Flattened. Many media outlets only reported of the huge British turnout, but what they never report is how much of PAC's fan base have gone beyond the Filipino community.

I've gone to one PAC fight prior to the Flattened fight, it used to be that it was basically Pinoys showin' up for his fights, but the Flattened fight, surprised the **** out of me. Because the turnout of non-Filipinos at the MGM to cheer on PAC was huge.

So, if you were to ask me who had more fans that night in Vegas, I'd have to say it was nearly even and maybe even more for PAC, you can thank the Mexican fans, the African-American fans , Whites fans for that.

Now, if you were to ask me if there were more Brits than Pinoys that attended the fight, I'd have to say it was the Brits. But, maybe it was just that the British presence was loud and usually huddled in a bunch chanting all over the g*dd*mn place. Whereas the Pinoys were more scattered, kinda just doing their own thing.

It's really hard to for me to believe that there were actually more Brits than Pinoys that night though, (not necessarily at the MGM Grand but just all over Vegas that night), because Las Vegas has a decent size Pinoy community , Los Angeles has the largest Filipino contingent in the U.S. and their turnout alone could easily topple the Brits. And I haven't even included the Filipinos from San Francisco and some even came from Hawaii, another state that has a strong Filipino representation.

[mrpain81]

Just my estimate my man, I predicted 800k for Marquez/Mayweather and I think 1 million for Hatton/Pac. I'm usually not too off, one thing I do know is that Pacquiao is almost a household name already. I also have good friends who ain't even Rican and love Cotto, I think this fight will do great numbers.

[BOX-A-LOT]

Just my estimate my man, I predicted 800k for Marquez/Mayweather and I think 1 million for Hatton/Pac. I'm usually not too off, one thing I do know is that Pacquiao is almost a household name already. I also have good friends who ain't even Rican and love Cotto, I think this fight will do great numbers.

I think so too, both fighters have a strong fan base. I think PAC-Cotto have a really good shot at toppling FMJ's- Juanita's PPV#s

[The Noose]

"Pac will get KTFO in the 11th round against Cotto"

- Nostradamus.

[Al Haymon]

Just my estimate my man, I predicted 800k for Marquez/Mayweather and I think 1 million for Hatton/Pac. I'm usually not too off, one thing I do know is that Pacquiao is almost a household name already. I also have good friends who ain't even Rican and love Cotto, I think this fight will do great numbers.

See how Floyd (or Floyd-hate*) gets things all confused?

As a fan of the man's skills, and a sometimes apologist for his boxing-related decisions, Let me say that he has WAAY too much influence on the sport.

Now, you have novices calling every left hook a "check hook".
Nobody EVER called Zab a "front runner: until Floyd did, and the reality is that Zab's rep was the opposite.
People are now viewing 1 million PPV sales as "good" or "solid"

Pain, 800K plus IS "great numbers" .In the history of the sport , the entire history of PPV boxiing, guess how many non-heavyweight, non-Oscar/Floyd events have done 1 million buys? Answer: zero.

Not even Oscar/Shane, Oscar/Hopkins, Oscar/vargas, Oscar/Chavez did 1 million buys.

I;m not saying that you are wrong. "Firepower" may do 1.3 million, and i would be very surprised, and very disappointed in Nostradamus. But the prognostication of 838K is a terrifically high number.

*Pain, not saying that YOU hate Floyd. But many posters are predicting 1.5 million plus bc they can't bear to accept that Floyd just sold a ton of PPV's.

[Al Haymon]

NY,NY is at about 40 degrees and change (I think), so it wouldn't apply anyway.

All of the Nostracrap floating around the internet "referring" to 9/11 is made up, or at best, altered from it's original wording to serve an agenda. [EDIT]
Much like the global warming hoax that many world leaders and scientists are using in an attempt to gain more control and power over the individual. If they succeed, we'll be living in a world-wide "Soviet Union" type government. You guys better start praying they don't complete their agenda.

Aside from that, I think anyone who tries to apply the scribblings of a dead frenchman from the dark ages to current world events in an attempt to predict the future, needs either a cat scan, or therapy, or a solid *****-slap to wake them up.

45 parallel crosses at the very northern tip of NY state. Nowhere near NYC. New York is at 40 degrees. Montreal, Minneapolis, Montpelier, Portland Oregon are all at 45 degrees.

Hey, man. You are throwing a bit of a conspiracy theorist vibe at me. Do you align withthe 9/11 Truthers and the NWO theories?

[Stickman]

45 parallel crosses at the very northern tip of NY state. Nowhere near NYC. New York is at 40 degrees. Montreal, Minneapolis, Montpelier, Portland Oregon are all at 45 degrees.

Hey, man. You are throwing a bit of a conspiracy theorist vibe at me. Do you align withthe 9/11 Truthers and the NWO theories?

Not at all. Those guys (truthers, NWO theorists) are nutjobs. And Oswald was guilty, too (nobody on the grassy knoll).

I'm just looking at the actual scientific evidence (RE: Global warming being bull****), and as far as what their agenda is (scientists are after funding, politicians are after more power, always has been the case), all you have to do is look to history. Every government that's come to power offering "change", or pretending to be a buddy to the little guy, has turned into a dictatorship in one form or another. Hitler is a good example. He promise "change"....guess he didn't lie about that, at least. **** Germany, the Roman Empire, U.S.S.R. and every other totalitarian (socialist, dictatorship, whatever) regime in the history of the civilized world has gone about things basically the same way...promise change to get into power, tax the people into poverty, disarm the public, and then assume complete and total control over every aspect of the lives of it's people.

The system is great, for the party in power...unprecedented wealth and freedom....not so much fun for the average guy, though. Ask anyone who lived in the old Soviet Union before the wall cam a'tumblin' down, or anyone who remembers what Germany was like under Hitler.

[BOX-A-LOT]

See how Floyd (or Floyd-hate*) gets things all confused?

As a fan of the man's skills, and a sometimes apologist for his boxing-related decisions, Let me say that he has WAAY too much influence on the sport.

Now, you have novices calling every left hook a "check hook".
Nobody EVER called Zab a "front runner: until Floyd did, and the reality is that Zab's rep was the opposite.
People are now viewing 1 million PPV sales as "good" or "solid"

Pain, 800K plus IS "great numbers" .In the history of the sport , the entire history of PPV boxiing, guess how many non-heavyweight, non-Oscar/Floyd events have done 1 million buys? Answer: zero.

Not even Oscar/Shane, Oscar/Hopkins, Oscar/vargas, Oscar/Chavez did 1 million buys.

I;m not saying that you are wrong. "Firepower" may do 1.3 million, and i would be very surprised, and very disappointed in Nostradamus. But the prognostication of 838K is a terrifically high number.

*Pain, not saying that YOU hate Floyd. But many posters are predicting 1.5 million plus bc they can't bear to accept that Floyd just sold a ton of PPV's.

True, but none of those fights you pointed out had 24/7!! Don't you think B-Hop could've played the "anti-christ role" just as good as Floyd if given the platform like 24/7. Afterall, B-Hop has a ton more "street cred" than that studio gangsta you like to wank to. B-Hop served like 10 years in the pen!

He's got the gift of gab, he is that black man that the white guy fears running into in a dark alley.

And plus, the way they're marketing boxing PPV's these days are somewhat different than before due to the recent rise of the UFC. The proliferation of boxing internet sites have increased tremendously in recent years, I doubt that was the case in the early 90's and earlier parts of this decade.

Times have changed man, hopefully the boxing gods keep it up. I'd love to see a Super Six in every division, every year!!