Spence and James

[MulaKO]

Just read that the news is a split from trainer Derrick James for Errol Spence
Not sure what to make of this although we all seen the Bud fight where there was no plan B or C
I would like to see Spence hook up with Garcia

[IceTrayDaGang]

no plan b? what is plan b suppose to be? give spence a handgun so he can shoot TC?

TC was clearly the better fighter, a plan b,c,d, will not change anything... when fans say shiiet like "they didnt even have a plan b" is just funny to me... like derrick wasnt giving spence instructions between rounds...

TC was just the better fighter so whatever adjustment that spence tried to do, it wasnt enough for TC.

[MulaKO]

no plan b? what is plan b suppose to be? give spence a handgun so he can shoot TC?

TC was clearly the better fighter, a plan b,c,d, will not change anything... when fans say shiiet like "they didnt even have a plan b" is just funny to me... like derrick wasnt giving spence instructions between rounds...

TC was just the better fighter so whatever adjustment that spence tried to do, it wasnt enough for TC.

He might of been better off with a gun
Just sayin’

[MulaKO]

no plan b? what is plan b suppose to be? give spence a handgun so he can shoot TC?

TC was clearly the better fighter, a plan b,c,d, will not change anything... when fans say shiiet like "they didnt even have a plan b" is just funny to me... like derrick wasnt giving spence instructions between rounds...

TC was just the better fighter so whatever adjustment that spence tried to do, it wasnt enough for TC.

Honestly speaking , I didn’t see any adjustments from Spence in this fight
Bud was stronger in all aspects of the game but still didn’t notice Errol trying to do anything different from one round to the other

[crimsonfalcon07]

Just read that the news is a split from trainer Derrick James for Errol Spence
Not sure what to make of this although we all seen the Bud fight where there was no plan B or C
I would like to see Spence hook up with Garcia

TBH I'm not sure there COULD have been a plan B or C, because the issue didn't look like a strategic issue. He was just plain outclassed, at least on the night, by a faster and more skilled man. Even if it were a timing issue as Spence claimed, there's not much to be done plan-wise. What were they going to do, put Spence outboxing on the back foot to give him more time to try to get the timing down? Pretty much impossible to change longstanding fight style mid fight, especially for a fighter like Spence, especially when he's taking the kind of damage he was so quickly.

Only thing that I can really think of is for him to work on angles and positional defense. Maybe Andy Lee has some magic for him like he's been working with Parker? But it's always questionable splitting from a really long time trainer who knows you best. Unless they're really actually lacking something fundamental themselves, they're still probably going to be more efficient at addressing the lack in the fighter.

[Gary Coleman]

no plan b? what is plan b suppose to be? give spence a handgun so he can shoot TC?

TC was clearly the better fighter, a plan b,c,d, will not change anything... when fans say shiiet like "they didnt even have a plan b" is just funny to me... like derrick wasnt giving spence instructions between rounds...

TC was just the better fighter so whatever adjustment that spence tried to do, it wasnt enough for TC.

How about James work with his guy to develop the ability to parry, slip or block a jab? More head movement? Something. Anything.

[MulaKO]

TBH I'm not sure there COULD have been a plan B or C, because the issue didn't look like a strategic issue. He was just plain outclassed, at least on the night, by a faster and more skilled man. Even if it were a timing issue as Spence claimed, there's not much to be done plan-wise. What were they going to do, put Spence outboxing on the back foot to give him more time to try to get the timing down? Pretty much impossible to change longstanding fight style mid fight, especially for a fighter like Spence, especially when he's taking the kind of damage he was so quickly.

Only thing that I can really think of is for him to work on angles and positional defense. Maybe Andy Lee has some magic for him like he's been working with Parker? But it's always questionable splitting from a really long time trainer who knows you best. Unless they're really actually lacking something fundamental themselves, they're still probably going to be more efficient at addressing the lack in the fighter.

Your definitely right about it being hard to change style during fight
But the fact that Spence was getting tagged badly by the right and the fact that he couldn’t counter or time his opponent says much about his preparation and that’s on his trainer
To my recollection , they thought that Spence would be the bigger fighter in all senses possible
Instead it was Bud who was hitting harder and bullying Errol from the get go
Spence also didn’t have a clue how to hold or smother Bud’s work , just stood there and took the bulk of it

[niceyboo3]

Who didn't see this coming? You don't get beat like that and not change something that you can blame the loss on

[IceTrayDaGang]

How about James work with his guy to develop the ability to parry, slip or block a jab? More head movement? Something. Anything.

are you telling me that a trainer like james doesnt teach this type of stuff? or is the fighter just not listening or cant execute the game plan?

it's a lot easier to sit here and be like "spence should have done this"... HE COULDNT!!!! if it's that easy then every fighter out there would be winning all their fights by having a "plan b"... sometimes, a plan z cant save you.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Your definitely right about it being hard to change style during fight
But the fact that Spence was getting tagged badly by the right and the fact that he couldn’t counter or time his opponent says much about his preparation and that’s on his trainer
To my recollection , they thought that Spence would be the bigger fighter in all senses possible
Instead it was Bud who was hitting harder and bullying Errol from the get go
Spence also didn’t have a clue how to hold or smother Bud’s work , just stood there and took the bulk of it

i disagree... TC is the better fighter. it's like ya asking for a miracle to happen. it's like if i play basketball 1on1 with someone who is clearly better than me, it's not gonna help me if i have a plan c or d, the other guy is just better.