My Take on Juanma-Mtagwa

[Al Haymon]

I agree with your whole post except the bold.

You saying a guy who survive 3 rounds while being KOd on his feet that he dont have inner dirve? tha ****?

He is just learning, not everybody can get everything right. he will comeback stronger from this.

Inner drive (self-discipline?) to push yourself in training every day. To run that sixth mile hard when nobody is watching.

Not the inner drive and pride to get through a fight. i'm not saying he is Victor Ortiz.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Inner drive (self-discipline?) to push yourself in training every day. To run that sixth mile hard when nobody is watching.

Not the inner drive and pride to get through a fight. i'm not saying he is Victor Ortiz.

LOL My bad I didnt fully comprehended your statement!!!!

Anyways, I think this was the case of being overconfident, not lack of inner-drive!!!!!

[street bully]

Bully,,

Thanks, I will.

Was that more function of him being out of shape...or poor defense ..or bad style matchup?

The Juanma that i've seen could throw tons of punches and had no stamina issue.

Juanma was in great shape, and looked poker faced and won the first hal of the fight, but his defense was non existant, and Mtwanga more or less walked him down took all his shots, and couldn't seem to miss right haymakers. It became a brawl for the second part of the fight, and Mtwanga really taxed him, and Juanma was done by the 10th, he was hurt, gettign wobbled all the time, and was out of gas from all the shots he took. He was also cut and his left eye badly swollen. I thought Juanma would get KOed but he somehow managed to survive because he was clinching and wouldn't let go. lets ut it this way if the fight was a min longer Juanma would not have been champ. However I had it 7-5 for Juanma he won the fight, but clearly lost the battle.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Bully,,

Thanks, I will.

Was that more function of him being out of shape...or poor defense ..or bad style matchup?

The Juanma that i've seen could throw tons of punches and had no stamina issue.

A combination of the 3.

Juanma was out of shape as hell, he was gassed by the 4 or 5th round, that led to him trying to KO his opponent quickly and him fighting ****** and Mtagwas beard and wild punches carry the day as far as that!


I think is time for Juanma to move to 126 also

[Toney Loc]

Bully,,

Thanks, I will.

Was that more function of him being out of shape...or poor defense ..or bad style matchup?

The Juanma that i've seen could throw tons of punches and had no stamina issue.

He undertrained and had no clear gameplan other than "knock him out". JuanMa in tip-top shape is a damn good fighter. He was breaking all sorts of punch records in the Gerry fight and looked amazing but Gerry was somewhat of a sitting duck and didn't push him at all. This Mtgawa fight is a blessing in disguise, I'm almost positive that JuanMa is going to come back hungry and in top form.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Juanma was in great shape,and looked poker faced and won the first hal of the fight, but his defense was non existant, and Mtwanga more or less walked him down took all his shots, and couldn't seem to miss right haymakers. It became a brawl for the second part of the fight, and Mtwanga really taxed him, and Juanma was done by the 10th, he was hurt, gettign wobbled all the time, and was out of gas from all the shots he took. He was also cut and his left eye badly swollen. I thought Juanma would get KOed but he somehow managed to survive because he was clinching and wouldn't let go. lets ut it this way if the fight was a min longer Juanma would not have been champ. However I had it 7-5 for Juanma he won the fight, but clearly lost the battle.

I agree with everything you said, but the bold.


Juanma was sluggish and out of shape, he was gassed out by the 4th!!!!

[oc9979]

He doesn't say he ONLY won 4 rounds ... you ***in donkey oc9979 , read his quote again... i don't know his actual score ... but he says juanma took a beating for the final 4

First of all round nine juanma outlanded by 19 punches. What other round could you give to mtagwa.
1st round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 16 punches
2nd round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 20 punches
3rd round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 25 punches
4th round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 15 punches
5th round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 8 punches plus the knock down
6th round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 13 punches
8th round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 19 punches
9th round juanma outlanded mtagwa by 18 punches

[ny123]

Juanma was in great shape, and looked poker faced and won the first hal of the fight, but his defense was non existant, and Mtwanga more or less walked him down took all his shots, and couldn't seem to miss right haymakers. It became a brawl for the second part of the fight, and Mtwanga really taxed him, and Juanma was done by the 10th, he was hurt, gettign wobbled all the time, and was out of gas from all the shots he took. He was also cut and his left eye badly swollen. I thought Juanma would get KOed but he somehow managed to survive because he was clinching and wouldn't let go. lets ut it this way if the fight was a min longer Juanma would not have been champ. However I had it 7-5 for Juanma he won the fight, but clearly lost the battle.

good post i agree i was at the fight and rooting for juanma but even though he clearly won the fight he lost the battle a rematch is due or a fight with cabalerro anything else is a bad look

[street bully]

He undertrained and had no clear gameplan other than "knock him out". JuanMa in tip-top shape is a damn good fighter. He was breaking all sorts of punch records in the Gerry fight and looked amazing but Gerry was somewhat of a sitting duck and didn't push him at all. This Mtgawa fight is a blessing in disguise, I'm almost positive that JuanMa is going to come back hungry and in top form.

being hungry will not fix non existant defense. had he avoided gettign hit with 20 shots a round maybe he would not have tired.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

He undertrained and had no clear gameplan other than "knock him out". JuanMa in tip-top shape is a damn good fighter. He was breaking all sorts of punch records in the Gerry fight and looked amazing but Gerry was somewhat of a sitting duck and didn't push him at all. This Mtgawa fight is a blessing in disguise, I'm almost positive that JuanMa is going to come back hungry and in top form.

THis is my exact thougts