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  • #21
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
    That was actually Wilder`s best fight ever. The only fight where he actually out boxed somebody.

    If he fought more guys like Chisora and less bums like Washington and Szpilka in his life, he would have improved his skills, very likely.
    Chisora would have been a very bad style for him because Chisora actually moves his head and is a decent inside fighter.

    Wilder hates pressure and has pretty bad punch resistance so I wouldn't have been shocked to see the Chisora of a few years ago knock him the **** out.

    Wilder is better against feather fisted guys with limited offence who he has 12 full rounds to get his right hand off on.
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    • #22
      Originally posted by WillieWild114 View Post
      In his first fight against Stiverrne he had a totally different style than he had the rest of his career when was boxing on the backfoot and moving was an outside boxer and had defensive skills what happened?

      He only had skills vs. over raked guys, the inactive or the old.

      Now his power has always been an asset, but outside of that he never fooled me.

      It is amazing the career he has had, thanks to the promoters and his manager who rode a bronze medal in the Olympics and the punch drunk American fans ( a sizable percent of his fans ) starving for a top fighter in the heavyweight ranks..

      In heavyweight boxing a big puncher usually wins vs. the shorter, non top 10 ranked, non - punching types who KO 0% of their say top 20 " box rec " opponents.​

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      • #23
        Originally posted by daggum View Post

        hall of fame? why would he get in the hall? he literally has 2 top 10 wins his entire career and they arent super impressive wins to be honest
        Well, he will get in because his accomlishments have earned him a place there. Accomplishments that you are willfully unaware of. The Hall is the center of Boxing, and cannot conform to the misgivings of every casual fan of our sport who roots for his favorites and uplifts them by disparaging his competition. We hear the kind of talk that is prevalent on this board, this thread, about fighters all the time. It injects nothing of value into the knowledge base.
        Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 03-19-2024, 07:42 AM.

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        • #24
          I think if you still spend most of your time here crying about Floyd Mayweather you're a looney tune whose opinions should be ignored.

          That's like 3/4s of those who have responded to this thread.

          I dunno why no one else tells y'all, but, just in case you fairies never noticed, outside of your goofy circle jerks ain't no one regard anything you jabronis write in anyway.


          That said, Wilder's decline is existential and the main problem with this goofy "chosen one" mindset fighters get. Another mentioned Mike Tyson, you know what else Mike and Wilder got in common? Mike Tyson still believes he was chosen by God to be a special human being.

          When you get to the top and learn nothing about yourself there will be problems.








          I find it super interesting Wilder definitely, to date, got closest to beating Fury, but also has no boxing skills worth rating.

          Fury's whole entire bag is being elusive and unconventional, Wlad's entire thing was accuracy and power, Wilder's known for being **** all but a right hand. Wlad got beaten by a ****ing pivot, Wilder forced a controversial count, but ask anyone here between the two who combines accuracy and power best and how many of you are gonna say Wilder?

          Wlad got shut down so hard he was scared to throw like how Parker beat Wilder. Wilder forced a controversial count. But since y'all had already made up your mind about the situation this proves **** all.

          Who TF else does dude need to put down, cut the ****ing lights off, to prove he can, does, will, hit you hard enough for you to lose consciousness no matter who TF you are? Dude shows you perfect but because it comes in a glimpse he's not as good as a man who has never once ever shown you perfect.

          Wlad ain't even got a ****ing sequence worth bragging, his best most highlight action ever is him left hooking the piss out of Pulev. Man can't show you perfect, never could, Manny kept him using am technique for a reason. Another man consistently showed you perfect even against a common opponent but that man has no skills doe. Y'all tards who can't begin to answer this question.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
            Stiverne was the perfect opponent for wilders "boxing" to look good against. A slow, flat footed plodder, who was old and fat, could barely move and was short with slow hands.

            Wilder is 6'7" with good reach and at that point he wasn't slow on his feet so it was a physical mismatch Wilder could just run around and play keep away and Stiverne couldn't do anything about it.


            When Wilder tried boxing vs Szpilka and Washington who have mid skills at best, he was found sorely lacking and his power had to bail him out.

            He put everything into landing the right hand which was probably the best approach for him if we are being honest.
            ...This!

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            • #26
              Deontay Wilder has boxing skills, but? They are in and around European level at the highest.

              Wilder is not a Elite or World level fighter skill for skill, in terms of his pure boxing skills 'But he was a Elite level fighter, in other area's. Wilder had elite level power, determination, resolve and Wilder at his peak did have a solid enough Jab'.

              Note: Overall much of what Wilder has lacked, he has been able to negate with his power 'I believe Wilder would of struggled to negate this skills gap, that he has if he was competing in past era's'.

              Deontay Wilder is a great fighter within this era of Heavyweights, but he is the type of fighter 'That relied heavily on his punching power'. If you look back in boxing history, most of the great heavyweight power punchers, did not just relie on their power 'Even if they did not blast out their opponents with one punch, they still had the ability to beat guys up'.

              That is the difference between Deontay Wilder and Mike Tyson 'If Wilder struggled to deck, or hurt you really badly with a single punch. Wilder really at Elite and World level, had no choice to then get out boxed for the rest of the fight, until he was able to hurt his opponents'.

              Wilder to his credit, has been competitive at Elite and World level with those tactics, but only because this era of Heavyweights compared to past era's 'Are way below par in my opinion' etc.

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              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-19-2024, 08:38 AM.

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