Zhang vs parker is the biggest robbery in boxing in the last decade

[kiaba360]

he is very effective tho. he's not like jarrell miller who got stopped and dropped.


no such thing happened here.



he is more like old Foreman. underrated defense... but when Old foreman lost on points his face usually wore it with welts and bruises.


Zhang didn't have any bruises and was clean while delivering damage. he was very effective in offense and defense. Parker was NOT EFFECTIVE IN HIS OFFENSE OR DEFENSE.

I mentioned Miller to exemplify what a mediocre pressure fighter looks like. Zhang is more effective at counter-punching than Miller is at pressure-fighting, but Zhang cannot switch up his style because he doesn't trust his conditioning. I'm not arguing whether Zhang did or didn't win the fight; I'm saying that he could've taken it out of the judges' hands if he was in better shape. An increased work-rate could've stopped Parker. Zhang came in as his all-time heaviest for the most important fight of his career. Zhang's most important adjustment for the rematch is to get a damn nutritionist.

[hugh grant]

I've not seen fight. But I'm thinking 2 knock downs so that's 4 rounds in bag and only needed to win 2 more rounds to get draw?
So Zhang rather more lost the fight, rather than Parker won

[billeau2]

Not a big fan of scoring fights, or looking at scoring at all times, to determine who is actually the more dominant fighter... but in this fight it was scored exactly as it should have been. Parker won rounds, he won every round that he wasn't knocked down in.

kind of exasperating watching this fight, Parker has no concept of angles, and all the big Chinaman had to do was catch him after he threw his punches... there's just no skills anymore it's really crazy

[HeadShots]

I mentioned Miller to exemplify what a mediocre pressure fighter looks like. Zhang is more effective at counter-punching than Miller is at pressure-fighting, but Zhang cannot switch up his style because he doesn't trust his conditioning. I'm not arguing whether Zhang did or didn't win the fight; I'm saying that he could've taken it out of the judges' hands if he was in better shape. An increased work-rate could've stopped Parker. Zhang came in as his all-time heaviest for the most important fight of his career. Zhang's most important adjustment for the rematch is to get a damn nutritionist.

that's dumb. you are not judged by how you look. this is not figure skating.


in fighting, you should be judged by results.



Zhang's punches resulted in Parker getting badly damaged and dropped. Parker's offense did absolutely *** all. his defense also got him beat bloody. in other words, it's trash

[FinitoxDinamita]

that's dumb. you are not judged by how you look. this is not figure skating.


in fighting, you should be judged by results.



Zhang's punches resulted in Parker getting badly damaged and dropped. Parker's offense did absolutely *** all. his defense also got him beat bloody. in other words, it's trash

Right and results are based on 10 pt system for each round and Parker outscored him. So whoever looks more damaged loses the fight?

Zhang lost clearly and has nobody to blame but himself for his low work rate.

[dan_cov]

I've not seen fight. But I'm thinking 2 knock downs so that's 4 rounds in bag and only needed to win 2 more rounds to get draw?
So Zhang rather more lost the fight, rather than Parker won

That is incorrect.
There would be 8 rounds left going to Parker thus giving him the win.

If Zhang wins 4 rounds total with two being 10-8 rounds then Parker would win 114-112

[kiaba360]

that's dumb. you are not judged by how you look. this is not figure skating.


in fighting, you should be judged by results.



Zhang's punches resulted in Parker getting badly damaged and dropped. Parker's offense did absolutely *** all. his defense also got him beat bloody. in other words, it's trash

When I said "looks like", I meant how Miller fights: poor punch technique, poor agility (cement feet, no head/torso movement) which leads to heavy reliance on using his hands/arms for defense, heavy reliance on punch resistance, etc. Some of these deficiencies are a consequence of being 300lbs!

Zhang and Miller have different fighting styles, but face the same problem: their poor conditioning is affecting their overall effectiveness in the ring. Zhang has had this issue for a while now. His conditioning is even more important as he gets older. A nutritionist and/or S&C coach could help him reach an optimal weight and increase his endurance/stamina. It has nothing to do with aesthetics.

[Shadoww702]

Please no. Except 2 knock downs Zhang had nothing. Unlike Fury -Wilder 1, judges had it right this time.

You can`t win the match fighting like this. I was high on Zhang after two wins against Joyce, but he ****** now. If he can˙t do any better in a rematch, than f.uck him.

Those 2 KD's count for 4 rounds of the bat. Unless they come back and get beat down or dropped..... so you saying Zhang did not win 4 rounds total??? At least?

[Roadblock]

Those 2 KD's count for 4 rounds of the bat. Unless they come back and get beat down or dropped..... so you saying Zhang did not win 4 rounds total??? At least?

No, it doesn't because the other guy could have won the other two rounds. Now it's even with 8 rounds to go, it depends on how they scored them, and it also depends on how heavily the KDs were influencing the rest of the fight, its subjective which is why there is so much controversy in boxing.

[shenmue]

Zhang needed 5 rounds for a draw which I wouldn't have argued against that much. Parker won anything from 7 to 9 rounds.

I had parker winning 8 rounds, many of which he won by pretty much default as big **** zhang threw basically nothing.

I feared the worst when zhang over celebrated at the end of round 3, should have stopped him then celebrated.