Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao 'Ready to Go' for Conor Benn Fight in Saudi Arabia in May/June

[theface07]

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Clearly you know nothing about the US. Amir Khan who is not American was more popular in the US than the guys he fought. Same with PAC. Same with Hatton. Same with Fury.

I was pretty specific about PAC fans. Every single one of them believes the guy poops strawberries and peaches. Meanwhile, Floyd is hated by plenty of Americans. Ali was hated by more than half of Americans.

Lastly, stop assuming what people are here.

It's not an assumption when my observations are based on comments and actions by Americans who time and time again show their delusion reinforced by their blind patriotism.
America used to be an incredible country with good reason to be proud. Now it's a divided, conflicted mess that is crumbling due to extreme corruption.

[IronDanHamza]

You extrapolated that from an isolated incident ?!?!?

There have been 100's of roiders
How many any other names of abusers do you have ?!?!?

As for roiding......
In his own words, Pacquiao on blood testing
Dec 27, 2009

https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/238/in-own-words-pacquiao-blood-testing

"The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified."
~ Manny Quackieow

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Bob Arum Still Standing in Way of Title Fight
JANUARY 13, 2012

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1023758-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-bob-arum-still-standing-in-way-of-title-fight

"Arum's desire to have a temporary 45,000-seat outdoor stadium erected on the Las Vegas Strip to milk even more money out of a proposed mega-fight."

Don't see how the above would be any kind of evidence toward Pacquaio using PEDs?

[theface07]

Hey Pac
Remember all that talk about fighting Spence and or Bud

Well, Bud is looking for a dance partner !!!

And that would prove what? What real boxing fan wants to see an ancient Pac fighting arguably the best P4P boxer in the world?

[Oregonian]

It's not an assumption when my observations are based on comments and actions by Americans who time and time again show their delusion reinforced by their blind patriotism.
America used to be an incredible country with good reason to be proud. Now it's a divided, conflicted mess that is crumbling due to extreme corruption.

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I thought you were directly making it an observation about me.
I will not disagree with you about your description of Americans. It’s not just blind patriotism, it’s also a lack of basic knowledge about the world, be it political, sports or just general culture.
America is the most corrupt country amongst the top 20 western nations so again you are correct.

When I speak of delusional PAC fans, I also understand the reason why that is so is because he is their only national hero. They truly believe he has never lost.

[Roadblock]

It's not an assumption when my observations are based on comments and actions by Americans who time and time again show their delusion reinforced by their blind patriotism.
America used to be an incredible country with good reason to be proud. Now it's a divided, conflicted mess that is crumbling due to extreme corruption.

That can be said about any country in the world, I cant see how you can single out America, and Im an Australian not American and have travelled a fair portion of the world I see obsessed patriotism and corruption everywhere not just America, its the Pot calling the Kettle black.

[Roadblock]

Don't see how the above would be any kind of evidence toward Pacquaio using PEDs?

All the evidence is circumstantial, based around refusing to be tested without special conditions that would defeat the whole purpose of random testing, that one thing is very su****ious and incriminating that Manny still carries to this day, I think one day the truth will all come out from somebody that knows, just as the corruption of the referee saving Manny from a stoppage lose came out of the horse's mouth decades later so to will the Peds scandal come to light eventually.

[IronDanHamza]

All the evidence is circumstantial, based around refusing to be tested without special conditions that would defeat the whole purpose of random testing, that one thing is very su****ious and incriminating that Manny still carries to this day, I think one day the truth will all come out from somebody that knows, just as the corruption of the referee saving Manny from a stoppage lose came out of the horse's mouth decades later so to will the Peds scandal come to light eventually.

Refusing testing isn't evidence for PED use.

Su****ious? Sure. But not evidence of PED use.

I'd bet a my entire bank account that Pacquaio used PEDs in his career but if we are being honest, there's no evidence that he used PEDs as it stands. Likely never will be.

[Roadblock]

Refusing testing isn't evidence for PED use.

Su****ious? Sure. But not evidence of PED use.

I'd bet a my entire bank account that Pacquaio used PEDs in his career but if we are being honest, there's no evidence that he used PEDs as it stands. Likely never will be.

Its circumstantial evidence which I pointed out, if it were a court case an explaination would be asked about why he wanted to change the testing process.

Dictionary meaning.
Circumstantial evidence, in law, evidence not drawn from direct observation of a fact in issue.

I don't know if he was on PEDS or not but rest assured there are a number of people that know for sure, but I don't accuse Manny I only state that his actions in refusing full random testing is highly su****ious especially so in how many times he changed his story ending with him forcing Rios to have the same testing regime he refused to have.

[IronDanHamza]

Its circumstantial evidence which I pointed out, if it were a court case an explaination would be asked about why he wanted to change the testing process.

Dictionary meaning.
Circumstantial evidence, in law, evidence not drawn from direct observation of a fact in issue.

I don't know if he was on PEDS or not but rest assured there are a number of people that know for sure, but I don't accuse Manny I only state that his actions in refusing full random testing is highly su****ious especially so in how many times he changed his story ending with him forcing Rios to have the same testing regime he refused to have.

It's not though really. It's evidence that he didn't want to take a test, there could a plethora of reasons as to why. It's not going to hold up is the point.

I agree he's su****ious. But most elite boxers are. I don't see Pacquaio as much more, if at all more su****ious than the vast majority of other boxers on the surface.

[Roadblock]

It's not though really. It's evidence that he didn't want to take a test, there could a plethora of reasons as to why. It's not going to hold up is the point.

I agree he's su****ious. But most elite boxers are. I don't see Pacquaio as much more, if at all more su****ious than the vast majority of other boxers on the surface.

But legally it is because it refers to the avoidance of the test which would prove guilt or innocence, that's how circumstantial evidence works in court, its circumstances that point towards guilt or innocence.

This from law books

Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. Circumstantial evidence requires drawing additional reasonable inferences in order to support the claim.