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  • MulaKO
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    #31
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    Originally posted by pnut901

    At the end you could see that he was having leg trouble. Y seemed to me that it was more that than being rocked. It was a good fight and both guys gave a good account of themselves. It's crazy that he wasn't allowed to wear a brace on his knee. I guess that some commissions allow it and some don't.
    He was never really hurt imo
    He just couldn’t stand on it , imagine torn LCA plus the bum knee

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      #32
      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

      You know how many clean punches can be landed on a defenseless man in 7 seconds?
      I agree, he had to intervene in that moment. My argument is that he stopped it instead of giving him a standing 8 count which would have got him to win on the score card still. Though it's also to say that while not being in the moment where you're looking to protect a fighter.

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        #33
        Originally posted by famicommander

        Standing 8? This isn't amateur boxing. You turn your back, that's no different than throwing in the towel.
        What do you mean? There are so many fights where the ref gives a fighter a standing 8 count. I'm not arguing that the result wouldn't have been different, but for the sake of how much time was left, it would have helped Kholmatov see the final bell to win on points. This is an odd one for me, because I'm happy Ford won since he's from Jersey, but also feeling for Kholmatov's situation where everything he did was erased in less than 10 seconds left.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ELPacman

          What do you mean? There are so many fights where the ref gives a fighter a standing 8 count. I'm not arguing that the result wouldn't have been different, but for the sake of how much time was left, it would have helped Kholmatov see the final bell to win on points. This is an odd one for me, because I'm happy Ford won since he's from Jersey, but also feeling for Kholmatov's situation where everything he did was erased in less than 10 seconds left.
          The Association of Boxing Commissions took the standing 8 count out of pro boxing in 1998. What in the hell are you talking about?

          Are you confusing the mandatory 8 count from a knockdown with a standing 8?

          The ref can only count if there's a knockdown. You don't seem to understand the rules of boxing. The fighter turned his back, that's the same as giving up. That's a TKO loss. It would've been completely absurd for the ref to just arbitrarily declare a knockdown and count it when there wasn't one.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
            Is Bradley friends with Ford and his team? I have to assume so. Bradley isn't great but usually does a decent job. Khomaltov was obviously winning the fight by four or five rounds, he was outlanding and landing the bigger punches. Ford's corner knew well he needed a KO to win, kudos to Ford for going out in the 12th and taking the risk and hurting Khomaltov.

            Stoppage was iffy for me, Khomaltov was running but if could have been a standing 8. Regardless, Bradley was terrible and obviously pulling for Ford and not commenting fairly at all.
            There is no standing 8 count in professional boxing. Do you even watch the sport? This isn't the Olympics bro.

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              #36
              Originally posted by famicommander

              The Association of Boxing Commissions took the standing 8 count out of pro boxing in 1998. What in the hell are you talking about?

              Are you confusing the mandatory 8 count from a knockdown with a standing 8?

              The ref can only count if there's a knockdown. You don't seem to understand the rules of boxing. The fighter turned his back, that's the same as giving up. That's a TKO loss. It would've been completely absurd for the ref to just arbitrarily declare a knockdown and count it when there wasn't one.
              I'm not going by the official rules, but what I've seen in other matches. I've seen in a match where a fighter is getting beat up and the ref jumps in to give the fighter getting beat up a count because he was basically out of his feet, the same way Khomaltov was. I can't give you an exact match right now because I'm drunk and tired, but if you give me a moment to sober up, I'll dig a fight up where I've seen this. In fact, I have the imagery in my head of it happening and I can't put a face to the fighters when it did. If someone else can chime in, please do so, lol.

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                #37
                Originally posted by real raw

                He ran to the ropes? Not backed towards the ropes, but "ran to the ropes." What part of boxing is that?
                He didn’t run to the ropes
                He stumbled to the ropes , he had a torn ACL
                You could see something was wrong with his knee

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  The Association of Boxing Commissions took the standing 8 count out of pro boxing in 1998. What in the hell are you talking about?

                  Are you confusing the mandatory 8 count from a knockdown with a standing 8?

                  The ref can only count if there's a knockdown. You don't seem to understand the rules of boxing. The fighter turned his back, that's the same as giving up. That's a TKO loss. It would've been completely absurd for the ref to just arbitrarily declare a knockdown and count it when there wasn't one.
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                  The ropes held him up
                  Could of given him a count
                  Take a point like a knockdown

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MulaKO
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                    The ropes held him up
                    Could of given him a count
                    Take a point like a knockdown
                    That was before the knockout sequence, though. That's a separate question from whether or not turning his back should've stopped the fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pound4PoundStud

                      Re-watch it! Kholmatov didn't know where the ropes were because he was practically out on his feet!

                      I don't like premature stoppages anymore than the next person, but that stoppage was more than justified.
                      This!!! He was done at that point, and he took two punches after he turned his back, and had no defense at that point, so the stoppage was justified.

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