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  • messi807
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    #51
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas

    Its hard to say whos bigger than who rn tbh. Canelo for sure was the biggest name in the game at one point but AJ is up there too still & Tank with that 1.2M ppv number is up there too now.

    What makes you say AJ is bigger? Where would you rank Tank?
    I'd rank AJ, Canelo then Tank. AJ mainly because he's a HW and has sold the most PPV's in boxing than anyone that's active right now. Fury vs Ngannou did shocking but I think AJ vs Ngannou will do decent numbers, than eventually AJ vs Fury which might scratch 1.8 million+ buys.

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      #52
      Originally posted by messi807

      My primary complaint isn't age it's quality, I was just throwing that statistic out there as it's alarming. Why wouldn't I object to Canelo fighting a guy that got a gift over a 40 year old Derevychenko & a C level Dennis Hogan?
      I was going to ask you to list some younger fighters that should be on Canelo's resume, but if age isn't important, then let's move on. I think Munguia is good, but he hasn't displayed greatness. Do you believe Benavidez has displayed greatness yet, or do you think he's a tougher option than Munguia and thus want Canelo to prioritize him? Who would you prefer Munguia to face next?

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      • Haka
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        #53
        Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

        Name them.
        Mosley in 2003, Kostya in 2004, Lara in 2015, GGG at 154, Pwill, Pac in 09, Margarito (fought 2 times in 07 and 09)

        Oh wait that never happened.

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          #54
          Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

          Berto, Guerrero, Ortiz are Yldrim level

          Hatton is on the level of those “Euro stiffs” Gayweather fans complain about Canelo fighting

          Maidana is on the level of Plant.

          but keep going, I can nitpick all day too.
          Keep going, because it's all nonsense LOL.

          Yildirim was losing fights at International level for international belts, better yet world level - never won a world title ever.

          Berto was 2 time world champion.

          Guerrero 2 weight world champion and 6 time champion, who Floyd fought coming off a 12 month layoff.

          Victor Ortiz, 2008 prospect of the year - #3 Welterweight.

          All better than Yildrim. That's laughable.

          Ricky Hatton - 2 weight world champion, hall of famer, P4P list, fighter of the year and voted top 10 UK fighters of the past 25 years. Your'e really comparing Billy Joe Saunders, Callum Smith, John Ryder, Rocky Fielding to Ricky Hatton? Haha.

          Levels exist in boxing for a reason, no need to spout nonsense.

          Maidana beat 2 fighters that were multiple weight champions and beat a P4P fighter and nearly beat the #1 P4P fighter in the world. Plant hasn't. Looks like Plant is going to be food for Morell too in the future, so we'll see how that works out.


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          • messi807
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            #55
            Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

            McGregor lmao, joke of a fight
            Berto, Ortiz, Hatton, Guerrero, Maidana, see my post above.
            Canelo, green, weight drained
            Pacquiao, bum shoulder, been through wars, Gayweather ducked him for 5 years. Fight made too late
            Cotto, Margarito and Pacquiao had already defeated him by KO, still managed to bust up Gayweather pretty good.

            those the 8? lol. Gayweather’s Showtime fights were all garbage.
            You asked me to name them and I did, now you're making excuses LOL. I'm sorry bro, but I'm not arguing with a Canelo fan.. nobody respects that guy lol.

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            • messi807
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              #56
              Originally posted by MikeyG
              Nobody's gonna point out that Bivol is younger than Canelo so the whole premise is, at least from this point, wrong?
              Bivol and Canelo were both 32 years of age when they fought.

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                #57
                Originally posted by messi807

                Bivol and Canelo were both 32 years of age when they fought.
                Bivol was born in December.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by kiaba360

                  I was going to ask you to list some younger fighters that should be on Canelo's resume, but if age isn't important, then let's move on. I think Munguia is good, but he hasn't displayed greatness. Do you believe Benavidez has displayed greatness yet, or do you think he's a tougher option than Munguia and thus want Canelo to prioritize him? Who would you prefer Munguia to face next?
                  I'd prefer Munguia vs Berlanga. Benavidez would be a start, heck he could fight Benavidez and retire and I would have zero complaints - win or lose. That one fight would be his 2nd or 1st most important fight of his career, the other probably being the Golovkin fight. I believe Benavidez could provide some competition at 175 for Bivol/Beterbiev

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Haka

                    Mosley in 2003, Kostya in 2004, Lara in 2015, GGG at 154, Pwill, Pac in 09, Margarito (fought 2 times in 07 and 09)

                    Oh wait that never happened.
                    The joke would've been funnier if Mosley & Kostya were actually younger than Floyd.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by MikeyG

                      Bivol was born in December.
                      And they were the same age when they fought, I stand corrected.

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