Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez-Jaime Munguia Talks Intensifying

[mjh1969]

I like the fight with Canelo vs Munguia. I think it's a winable fight for Munguia. If Canelo doesn't come in shape or do something different in his training camp he could lose this fight. What it also shows me in a bigger sense is that the networks are tired of Canelo's antics and paying him for non sense, non competitive fights. In the end they don't draw or make money for the networks and they want to see Canelo in bigger fights. In two more years as Canelo ages, he won't be the draw as much and the only way for him to continue to generate money will be to fight Benavidez, Morrell and the other tough guys in the super middleweight division.

[Baba K]

Benavidez, Morrell and Mbili should all sit together ringside at the fight, to laugh, take photos with fans & with each other; and send a public offer to Chavez, Barrera, Morales, Marquez & Estrada to buy them a ringside seat too and make them all available for interviews. That would clown Alvarez without saying a word.

[PBR Streetgang]

You forgot Liam Smith and Tureano Johnson lol. Munguia has a bunch of C-level guys with some B's sprinkled in, but has yet to face a potential A-level guy....and he's supposed to have a chance against an A+ level in Canelo? Idk about that.

Thing is, you have better fighters facing those same opponents afterwards. Munguia has gotten away with it due to youth and a lack of amateur experience.

Ah yes. Did I forget Spike O'Sullivan too? As for Taureano Johnson, Reno was lighting Jaime up until Munguia landed a shot that split his lip badly.

Munguia's "problem" goes back to a limited Sadam Ali beating the shell of Miguel Cotto and Munguia then stopping Ali. Munguia became a belt holder when he was very young and raw. He beats Liam Smith (a pretty good win actually) but soon after that his flaws are exposed against Inoue and Hogan.

GBP had a young, Mexican beltholder that they could convert into either a star or ultimately cash out...they just needed to make sure he didn't lose in the interim. And thus we are here...

[kiaba360]

I don`t get that logic. When fighters fight, their resumes don`t fight. Fury`s best win before Klitschko was probably Cunnungham, but he still beat Klitschko.

Some guys rise to the occasion when they get the right chance.

At the end of the day, Canelo`s resume is also full of Liam Smiths, Fieldings, blown up old Mosley, Khans..

And, is Munguia`s resume any worse than Benavidez˙s? But Benavidez that beat Andrade and Plant is some kind of boogeyman and all guys here demand canelo to fight him?

When fighting a cash-cow, the spotlight burns brightly and expectations are very high. That's why Jermell has gotten so much criticism for his recent performance. There's nothing that could necessarily get Munguia prepared for it, but I wish he would've fought Andrade or Jermall for a title when he had the opportunity. Derevy made him very uncomfortable, and I think that's the best preparation he's gotten.

I think Munguia's quantity gives his resume an edge over David's.

[kiaba360]

Ah yes. Did I forget Spike O'Sullivan too? As for Taureano Johnson, Reno was lighting Jaime up until Munguia landed a shot that split his lip badly.

Munguia's "problem" goes back to a limited Sadam Ali beating the shell of Miguel Cotto and Munguia then stopping Ali. Munguia became a belt holder when he was very young and raw. He beats Liam Smith (a pretty good win actually) but soon after that his flaws are exposed against Inoue and Hogan.

GBP had a young, Mexican beltholder that they could convert into either a star or ultimately cash out...they just needed to make sure he didn't lose in the interim. And thus we are here...

Munguia definitely won a title too early, and it created a level of expectation that he wasn't ready to reach. GBP no longer has Canelo...and with Garcia acting like a basket-case and Ortiz trying to rebuild, they need Munguia to become a star.

[JakeTheBoxer]

When fighting a cash-cow, the spotlight burns brightly and expectations are very high. That's why Jermell has gotten so much criticism for his recent performance. There's nothing that could necessarily get Munguia prepared for it, but I wish he would've fought Andrade or Jermall for a title when he had the opportunity. Derevy made him very uncomfortable, and I think that's the best preparation he's gotten.

I think Munguia's quantity gives his resume an edge over David's.

Yes. I agree.

But why do nearly all guys demand Canelo to fight Benavidez than?

[Southpaw16]

Yes. I agree.

But why do nearly all guys demand Canelo to fight Benavidez than?

Why do we demand it? For the exact same reasons Canelo is avoiding it, and very flagrantly avoiding it for that matter.

Plant and Andrade are both significantly better than anybody on Munguia’s record, and Benavidez beat down and stopped both.

[kiaba360]

Yes. I agree.

But why do nearly all guys demand Canelo to fight Benavidez than?

Because they believe he's the biggest threat available. I assume Munguia isn't perceived as a legitimate threat to Canelo because he's campaigning at his 3rd weight. Most believe that David's combination of size/strength/power/pressure will give Canelo issues.

[THC]

It’s baffling how some will be ginger apologists when he weasels out of his PBC contract to avoid giving us fans the best fight to be made at 168.

Munguia is a better offering than Berlanga, but after the narrative justifying not fighting a fellow Mexican to avoid Benavidez, and then leaving PBC to complete the duck... that's got to be a bad look to any true fan of the sport.

[Teetotaler69]

Why do we demand it? For the exact same reasons Canelo is avoiding it, and very flagrantly avoiding it for that matter.

Plant and Andrade are both significantly better than anybody on Munguia’s record, and Benavidez beat down and stopped both.

That's debatable. Derivchenko is easily better than Andrade and plant. And Bena didn't stop plant which is pretty embarrassing