Floyd had USADA bought and paid for... He was a dirty fighter just like all the Balco guys and other juice heads of that time. Dude was overpaying by hundreds of thousands to keep his SH** under wraps.
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Originally posted by daggum View PostThis is a technical breakdown of floyd's duck of manny pac
in 2012 floyd who had already agreed to a 50-50 purse split against pac suddenly changed his mind when pac agreed to drug testing. the new deal was pac only gets a 40 million flat fee with no ppv revenue at all.
This will prove that floyd going from a 50-50 split to a flat offer of 40 million was in fact a duck move(i think the vast majority realize this but maybe cant articulate quite how it was a duck since they dont have the numbers)
floyd had 8 ppvs under his belt at that time so lets compare his 8 ppvs to mannys last 8 ppvs before the flat offer and see what we get...
if we go back 1 fight before the offer pac-marquez 3 did 1.4 million. floyd-ortiz did 1.25 million. edge to pac.
if we go back 2 fights pac-mosley did 1.34 and floyd-mosley did 1.4. total thats 2.74 for pac and 2.65 for floyd. edge to pac
if we go back 3 fights pac-marg 1.15 and floyd-marquez 1. total 3.89 for pac and 3.65 for floyd. edge to pac.
if we go back 4 fights pac-clottey 700k and floyd-hatton 850k. total 4.59 for pac and 4.5 for floyd. edge to pac.
if we go back 5 fights pac-cotto 1.25 and floyd-hoya 2.4. total 5.84 for pac and 6.9 for floyd. edge to floyd.
if we go back 6 fights pac-hatton 850k and floyd-baldomir 325k. total 6.68 for pac and 7.25 for floyd. edge to floyd.
if we go back 7 fights pac-hoya 1.25 and floyd-judah 375k. total pac 7.94 and 7.6 for floyd. edge to pac.
if we go back 8 fights pac-diaz 200k and floyd-gatti 350k. total pac 8.14 and 7.95 for floyd. edge to pac.
oh yes and there are also the live gates that come into play. couldnt find them all but i have 66.7 for pac minus the david diaz fight and 64.2 million for floyd minus the baldomir fight. seems like a slight edge to pac there as well.
In Summary
Pac ppv revenue: 8.14 million live gate 66.7 million
Floyd ppv revenue: 7.95 million live gate 64.2 million
when floyd and pac did fight they split 400 million but in 2012 they probably would have generated even more but lets just say in 2012 it also sells 400 million. why did pac only deserve 40 million with floyd getting 360 million or more? that equates to a 90-10 split in floyds favor. i cant believe anyone actually blamed pac for not accepting this sh-it given his numbers were on par or better than floyds. a blatant duck and the prime example of what a lowball offer is, it especially makes it apparent floyd was ducking since he had already agreed to the 50-50 split only to change it later when his bluff was called about the testing. this was an absolute farce and disgrace on boxing.
7 pages in and nobody stepped up and really challenged this.
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Originally posted by djtmal View PostOriginally posted by Roadblock View Post
Just answer the question did Manny agree to full random testing with no cut of dates just the same as he ordered Rios to have, did he or did he not answer it!
2012 --
During his interview Thursday on ESPN's First Take show, Pacquiao said he sees no problem with the drug-testing issue.
"No problem," Pacquiao said. "Whatever he wants to do."
He said he is willing to be tested even on the night of the fight. "No problem," he said. "Even the night of the fight. No problem."
The other major contentious issue is the fight purse which appears to have likewise been resolved with Pacquiao's latest statement on ESPN, saying he is now willing to face Mayweather on a 55-45 purse split in order to make the fight happen.
.....and there it is.....
don't worry in the next sentence this guy will claim nobody wanted to answer his question
2010 , do you know what 2010 means lol, we all know he agreed later that's not the reason the fight didn't happen in 2010, he said NO in 2010 , fck there is some re--tards in here.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
2010 , do you know what 2010 means lol, we all know he agreed later that's not the reason the fight didn't happen in 2010, he said NO in 2010 , fck there is some re--tards in here.
clearly the man was looking for an escape route like he had previously did with winky wright and antonio margarito
i just say floyd was scared
Insert more Floyd excuses here:
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Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
2012 --
During his interview Thursday on ESPN's First Take show, Pacquiao said he sees no problem with the drug-testing issue.
"No problem," Pacquiao said. "Whatever he wants to do."
He said he is willing to be tested even on the night of the fight. "No problem," he said. "Even the night of the fight. No problem."
The other major contentious issue is the fight purse which appears to have likewise been resolved with Pacquiao's latest statement on ESPN, saying he is now willing to face Mayweather on a 55-45 purse split in order to make the fight happen.
2012 lol so what your saying is Manny agreed to full random testing while he was taking Oscar and Floyd to court for defamation and was signed to fight Bradley and Marquez both loses, 2 loses no wonder he would take a purse cut, is this the proposal your trying to fly with lol.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
2012 lol so what your saying is Manny agreed to full random testing
After everything was agreed upon, Floyd came back at the 11th hour and killed the deal by trying to throw it in
He pulled the same thing in negotiations with Winky Wright and Antonio Margarito
Thats his mode of operation when he is ducking scared.
Last edited by djtmal; 02-29-2024, 04:30 PM.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
youre a fcn moran, one simple question I put to you and you cannot answer it, its the most significant question in the entire saga and you cannot answer it , if we were standing face to face you would be a mute, answer my only question or fck off end of debate.
Floyd ducked you can see its just the kind of guy he is if you have half a brain cell
He ducked cotto,paul williams and margarito and cherry picked a young canelo with a weight clause
Floyd will always be a great fighter but he didnt have the balls that even young Ryan Garcia shows today
The guy said he didn't care about belts to avoid risky fights when he was in fact talking out of his assLast edited by Stuntman Mike; 02-29-2024, 04:31 PM.
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Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
Most significant question in your personal agenda
Floyd ducked you can see its just the kind of guy he is if you have half a brain cell
He ducked cotto,paul williams and margarito and cherry picked a young canelo with a weight clause
Floyd will always be a great fighter but he didnt have the balls that even young Ryan Garcia shows today
The guy said he didn't care about belts to avoid risky fights when he was in fact talking out of his ass
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
Read for comprehension the original deal didn't include olympic style testing.
After everything was agreed upon, Floyd came back at the 11th hour and killed the deal by trying to throw it in
He pulled the same thing in negotiations with Winky Wright and Antonio Margarito
Thats his mode of operation when he is ducking scared.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
Another confirmed hater idiot comes out of the bushes spews a bunch of BS and runs away again, why are you people such shallow minded morons, your a moron I can see it by your little outburst like a girl running out the door pointing her finger telling you how evil you are, its so fkn pathetic.
Showing your colours here buddy
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