Floyds 40 million flat offer debunked

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This is a technical breakdown of floyd's duck of manny pac


in 2012 floyd who had already agreed to a 50-50 purse split against pac suddenly changed his mind when pac agreed to drug testing. the new deal was pac only gets a 40 million flat fee with no ppv revenue at all.

This will prove that floyd going from a 50-50 split to a flat offer of 40 million was in fact a duck move(i think the vast majority realize this but maybe cant articulate quite how it was a duck since they dont have the numbers)


floyd had 8 ppvs under his belt at that time so lets compare his 8 ppvs to mannys last 8 ppvs before the flat offer and see what we get...


if we go back 1 fight before the offer pac-marquez 3 did 1.4 million. floyd-ortiz did 1.25 million. edge to pac.

if we go back 2 fights pac-mosley did 1.34 and floyd-mosley did 1.4. total thats 2.74 for pac and 2.65 for floyd. edge to pac

if we go back 3 fights pac-marg 1.15 and floyd-marquez 1. total 3.89 for pac and 3.65 for floyd. edge to pac.

if we go back 4 fights pac-clottey 700k and floyd-hatton 850k. total 4.59 for pac and 4.5 for floyd. edge to pac.

if we go back 5 fights pac-cotto 1.25 and floyd-hoya 2.4. total 5.84 for pac and 6.9 for floyd. edge to floyd.

if we go back 6 fights pac-hatton 850k and floyd-baldomir 325k. total 6.68 for pac and 7.25 for floyd. edge to floyd.

if we go back 7 fights pac-hoya 1.25 and floyd-judah 375k. total pac 7.94 and 7.6 for floyd. edge to pac.

if we go back 8 fights pac-diaz 200k and floyd-gatti 350k. total pac 8.14 and 7.95 for floyd. edge to pac.


oh yes and there are also the live gates that come into play. couldnt find them all but i have 66.7 for pac minus the david diaz fight and 64.2 million for floyd minus the baldomir fight. seems like a slight edge to pac there as well.

In Summary

Pac ppv revenue: 8.14 million live gate 66.7 million

Floyd ppv revenue: 7.95 million live gate 64.2 million


when floyd and pac did fight they split 400 million but in 2012 they probably would have generated even more but lets just say in 2012 it also sells 400 million. why did pac only deserve 40 million with floyd getting 360 million or more? that equates to a 90-10 split in floyds favor. i cant believe anyone actually blamed pac for not accepting this sh-it given his numbers were on par or better than floyds. a blatant duck and the prime example of what a lowball offer is, it especially makes it apparent floyd was ducking since he had already agreed to the 50-50 split only to change it later when his bluff was called about the testing. this was an absolute farce and disgrace on boxing.

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also if we take out the hoya fight for both guys since hoya was the a-side and they were the b-sides pacs lead only grows. over 7 fights when pac was the a-side he generated 6.89 million in ppv revenue to floyds 5.55 in 7 fights when floyd was the a-side.

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Manny never agreed to randon blood testing he wanted cut of dates, agreeing to half the deal is not agreeing. He had no such cut of dates when he ordered it for the Rios fight, no scared of needles, no cut of dates, no warning when testers were coming, no nothing just the exact same testing Floyd wanted for both of them and Manny said NO.

It's been done to death people are sick of it; why is it Mayweather haters that keeps going around the Mulberry bush?

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All anyone needs to know is that Floyd basically admitted he “marinated” the fight for over five years. He claimed he deserved credit for being smart by prolonging the fight to make it a bigger event. That’s an admission of ducking for years. What he was really waiting on was for Manny to suffer wear and tear during those years of tough fights.

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All anyone needs to know is that Floyd basically admitted he “marinated” the fight for over five years. He claimed he deserved credit for being smart by prolonging the fight to make it a bigger event. That’s an admission of ducking for years. What he was really waiting on was for Manny to suffer wear and tear during those years of tough fights.

Did Manny agree to full random testing with no cut of dates in 2010 , simple question answer it?

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Manny never agreed to randon blood testing he wanted cut of dates, agreeing to half the deal is not agreeing. He had no such cut of dates when he ordered it for the Rios fight, no scared of needles, no cut of dates, no warning when testers were coming, no nothing just the exact same testing Floyd wanted for both of them and Manny said NO.

It's been done to death people are sick of it; why is it Mayweather haters that keeps going around the Mulberry bush?

its been done to death but instead of looking at the facts you still choose to make up your own story? floyd moved the goalposts over and over. you can even see that in the reporting of the time. it was never about the testing buddy! never! why do you keep saying that? heres an example...

Jan 10, 2010 â Mayweather would not settle for anything less than 14 days

May 3, 2010 Pacquiao Bends To Mayweather: Agrees To 14-Day Cut

guess what happened after that? floyd said no to 14 days. has to be a 0 day cut off. then pac said ok ill do that too. then guess what happened? floyd said oh ok you only get a flat fee even though you are more popular than me. he was effing around! how can you defend him when its so obvious he was just bluffing the whole time and running out the clock?

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its been done to death but instead of looking at the facts you still choose to make up your own story? floyd moved the goalposts over and over. you can even see that in the reporting of the time. it was never about the testing buddy! never! why do you keep saying that? heres an example...

Jan 10, 2010 â Mayweather would not settle for anything less than 14 days

May 3, 2010 Pacquiao Bends To Mayweather: Agrees To 14-Day Cut

guess what happened after that? floyd said no to 14 days. has to be a 0 day cut off. then pac said ok ill do that too. then guess what happened? floyd said oh ok you only get a flat fee even though you are more popular than me. he was effing around! how can you defend him when its so obvious he was just bluffing the whole time and running out the clock?

Just answer the question did Manny agree to full random testing with no cut of dates just the same as he ordered Rios to have, did he or did he not answer it!

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Did Manny agree to full random testing with no cut of dates in 2010 , simple question answer it?

you have never heard the term moving the goalposts? nothing pac could have done would have made the fight happen. we found that out when floyd was cornered and simply said pac only gets 40 million! he literally ran out of excuses and yet you still defend him?

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Just answer the question did Manny agree to full random testing with no cut of dates just the same as he ordered Rios to have, did he or did he not answer it!

you literally ignore all the evidence we have and box yourself into a small period of 2010 to claim floyd wanted to fight pac. problem is we know what happened after 2010 and floyd didnt fight him even when he did agree to it! making floyd a liar and bullsh-itter! yet here you are pretending like he didnt get his bluff called. you are still in 2010 lmao. the time when you actually thought drug testing was the reason floyd was ducking. spoiler alert...IT WASNT!

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you have never heard the term moving the goalposts? nothing pac could have done would have made the fight happen. we found that out when floyd was cornered and simply said pac only gets 40 million! he literally ran out of excuses and yet you still defend him?

But But But But, Manny refused full random testing its a fact and you cannot step over it, that is the reason the fight did not happen Manny said NO to full random testing, the same testing he ordered Rios to take the irony is hilarious, even Mannys trainer said it was Mannys fault, when the fck are fanboys like you going to stop crying.