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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
Ha that turned out to be the smartest move he made he walked away with 120 million plus, and ppv.
40 million and no ppv he would have been grossly shortchanging himself and he apparently knew it.
Floyd told Stephen A. that he called Manny and offered to wire 20 million upfront.
Who in their right mind believed that Floyd Mayweather, actually had 20 million liquidated upfront to send Manny Pacquaio that boy spends the money as fast as he gets it.
Certainly not Manny he hung up the phone immediately.
Manny was supposed to turn that down and nobody was mad at him for doing it.
I think its clear the JMM ko win was karma for that pathetic duck move.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
Ok so you and his fans defend him for turning the fight down. You just will not day it directly.
100 out of 100 people would have turned that down if they were Pacquaio wtf.
Floyd was obviously bluffing. Pacquaio would have never saw 20 million wired to his accounts imo. 40 million absolutely not.
What fighter actually paid his opponent upfront out of pocket. Look the Paul guy still waiting on his Mayweather fight money.Last edited by djtmal; 02-29-2024, 10:56 AM.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
Its nothing to defend thats a no brainer.
100 out of 100 people would have turned that down if they were Pacquaio wtf.
Floyd was obviously bluffing. Pacquaio would have never saw 20 million wired to his accounts imo. 40 million absolutely not.
What fighter actually paid his opponent upfront out of pocket.
Floyd has the money. So Manny would’ve gotten it. Your excuses are pathetic.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
So I guess you have access to Mayweather's bank accounts now.
You keep deleting the part about karma because it hurts deep.
Manny ducked. Cherrypicked JMM. Got ktfo. Got punked by Floyd in Miami. Finally took the fight. Got more for the fight when it happened. Put on an embarrassing performance. Lost.
Nothing more to discuss.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
Look dude you’re wasting time.
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Mayweather 40 Million offer debunked.
You said Floyd had the money.
Do you have access to Mayweather's accounts?
Where's your backup that he was wiring 20 million to Manny Pacquaio if he said yes.
Last edited by djtmal; 02-29-2024, 11:13 AM.
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Originally posted by daggum View PostThis is a technical breakdown of floyd's duck of manny pac
in 2012 floyd who had already agreed to a 50-50 purse split against pac suddenly changed his mind when pac agreed to drug testing. the new deal was pac only gets a 40 million flat fee with no ppv revenue at all.
This will prove that floyd going from a 50-50 split to a flat offer of 40 million was in fact a duck move(i think the vast majority realize this but maybe cant articulate quite how it was a duck since they dont have the numbers)
floyd had 8 ppvs under his belt at that time so lets compare his 8 ppvs to mannys last 8 ppvs before the flat offer and see what we get...
if we go back 1 fight before the offer pac-marquez 3 did 1.4 million. floyd-ortiz did 1.25 million. edge to pac.
if we go back 2 fights pac-mosley did 1.34 and floyd-mosley did 1.4. total thats 2.74 for pac and 2.65 for floyd. edge to pac
if we go back 3 fights pac-marg 1.15 and floyd-marquez 1. total 3.89 for pac and 3.65 for floyd. edge to pac.
if we go back 4 fights pac-clottey 700k and floyd-hatton 850k. total 4.59 for pac and 4.5 for floyd. edge to pac.
if we go back 5 fights pac-cotto 1.25 and floyd-hoya 2.4. total 5.84 for pac and 6.9 for floyd. edge to floyd.
if we go back 6 fights pac-hatton 850k and floyd-baldomir 325k. total 6.68 for pac and 7.25 for floyd. edge to floyd.
if we go back 7 fights pac-hoya 1.25 and floyd-judah 375k. total pac 7.94 and 7.6 for floyd. edge to pac.
if we go back 8 fights pac-diaz 200k and floyd-gatti 350k. total pac 8.14 and 7.95 for floyd. edge to pac.
oh yes and there are also the live gates that come into play. couldnt find them all but i have 66.7 for pac minus the david diaz fight and 64.2 million for floyd minus the baldomir fight. seems like a slight edge to pac there as well.
In Summary
Pac ppv revenue: 8.14 million live gate 66.7 million
Floyd ppv revenue: 7.95 million live gate 64.2 million
when floyd and pac did fight they split 400 million but in 2012 they probably would have generated even more but lets just say in 2012 it also sells 400 million. why did pac only deserve 40 million with floyd getting 360 million or more? that equates to a 90-10 split in floyds favor. i cant believe anyone actually blamed pac for not accepting this sh-it given his numbers were on par or better than floyds. a blatant duck and the prime example of what a lowball offer is, it especially makes it apparent floyd was ducking since he had already agreed to the 50-50 split only to change it later when his bluff was called about the testing. this was an absolute farce and disgrace on boxing.
Back then l'l floydy couldn't draw flies when Arum scheduled a homecoming for him, whereas Manny was the hottest sensation in boxing after taking l'l floydy's purse for the Oscar rematch that l'l floydy ditched in the middle of a public mental breakdown, his first of more than a half dozen retirements. See, he Crack Daddy told us what most people know that Oscar whooped l'l floydy, so now he scared of Oscar, so Manny saved Oscar's substantial promotional investment with even a bigger fight with Manny.
End of the day, the Lawmaker Manny was always the people's choice whilst the Lawbreaker l'l floydy and he CrackDaddy were the Thug's choice.
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I can't even believe people are seriously debating the $40mil flat fee. They obviously generate more money together than separately, therefore a flat fee is nonsense. Pretty sure Floyd said soon afterwards "we didn't even get to the upside", for what his public pronouncements were worth.
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