Boxing is at an all time low

[Smash]

Guess where boxing is on this list of top 20 world sports?

https://sportsbrief.com/other-sports...-sports-world/

[PRchamp]

Fights like Tsyzu-Thurman, Cruz-Rollie and Tank-Martin will be on HBO boxing after dark undercards and now those type of fights are PPV. The main source of boxing fans are being turned away every year with this sub par product.

used to be a time I would be glued to my couch watching 4-5 title fights on a Saturday night on 2 different channels and Friday nights were to see upcoming prospects make a name for themselves on ESPN against decent competition. Now I’m not that interested when I know some “mega” boxing star is fighting a worn out faded smaller fighter for millions of $$

[Atypicalbrit]

There's a few things working against boxing right now.

1. HBO leaving was a huge loss.

Sure HBO used to pump out a lot of American hype jobs but they really helped a lot of fighters build a following, and HBO events felt like big events. ESPN feel like WCW shows if you watched wrestling in the 90s you'll know what I mean. Cheap knockoff.

2. The fact eastern euros are becoming more and more dominant.

Lets be honest here these guys don't have fans, Oleksandyr Usyk doesn't have "fans" he has Tyson Fury haters, it is what it is but the majority of western audiences don't get super invested in these guys.


3. Not many exciting fighters.

Probably the only exciting "name" fighter right now is Tank, that's it.

Fury - boring and never fights, Usyk - boring, AJ fell off and has been boring for years, canelo, plodding and boring, Haney, boring, Shakur, boring.

People want action not guarenteed 12 rounders most of these guys provide.

[anonymous2.0]

I know this was a main story a week ago, but now when I look at 168 you see all these undefeated names, each with a claim at fighting Canelo, and yet they're all in a holding pattern trying to look pretty as they beg Canelo to pick them. We have David Benavidez leading the pack with a clear claim to fight for the WBC belt, David Morrell has emerged as a strong contender and in a similar situation as Benavidez, Mbilli is ranked #1 in the WBA, Munguia is ranked #1 in the WBC and WBO, William Scull (who?) is #1 at IBF, Diego Pacheko is green but still in the top 5 of 3 orgs, and Berlanga has the weakest claim but national rivalries gives him a bump and Charlo is also in the mix. It's crazy, 8 undefeated fighters not fighting each other, and until recently it was 9 with Andrade until Benavidez took him out of the picture.

Ideally Canelo should just retire and have the orgs and everyone make a Super 8 tourney.

[dan-b]

People have short memories.

We have upcoming undisputed title fights at heavyweight and. light heavyweight.

We have reigning undisputed champions at super middleweight and super bantamweight.

We have recently had undisputed champions at bantamweight, lightweight, super lightweight, welterweight, super welterweight, and cruiserweight.

Before Crawford did it we had zero undisputed champions since 2006. We went almost a decade without one.

Why place so much emphasis on a fighter's ability to collect four corrupt sanctioning body belts? Quality of opposition is more important.

Plus in nearly all of those so-called "undisputed" scenarios there were secondary belt holders active in the weight class, so the only thing clarified was sanctioning body greed.

[dan-b]

Bro all yall in this thread are clearly stuck in the past, Boxing has been booming lately we got a lot of classic fights last year and we getting more fan wanted fights this year like Ryan vs Haney is coming up real soon. So I dont understand why everybody keep saying boxing is at a low point when its really not.

Ryan is a social media hype job who emphasises part of boxing's current problem. Meanwhile, a lot of the actual top fighters in terms of ability are inactive and filling that time with social media use.

It's not stuck in the past to prefer activity and substance over inactivity and confected events (e.g. Fury - Ngannou).

[dan-b]

Boxing journalists are out of jobs because all the fights on social media

Boxing journalists should pivot into other areas, such as seriously investigating the sanctioning bodies and examining the structure of the sport more generally. Leave the transient clowns on social media to argue.

[ijudge]

Ryan is a social media hype job who emphasises part of boxing's current problem. Meanwhile, a lot of the actual top fighters in terms of ability are inactive and filling that time with social media use.

It's not stuck in the past to prefer activity and substance over inactivity and confected events (e.g. Fury - Ngannou).

this.

social media wasn't really a thing in the past.

when did twitter/instagram really took off?
2015?

im telling you. this new age behavior is really. just. new.

many folks here who remember the entire 2000s can remember the pace of how often fighters fight. and it's just incredible relative to now.

[dan-b]

this.

social media wasn't really a thing in the past.

when did twitter/instagram really took off?
2015?

im telling you. this new age behavior is really. just. new.

many folks here who remember the entire 2000s can remember the pace of how often fighters fight. and it's just incredible relative to now.

The thing is, Crawford, for example, is only a few years younger than me so it's not a generational thing. Some people seem to just get drawn into social media culture to the point it becomes part of their identity. I fail to see what benefit it brings a guy like Crawford either, just seems to be an outlet for his various discontents.

[Roadblock]

this.

social media wasn't really a thing in the past.

when did twitter/instagram really took off?
2015?

im telling you. this new age behavior is really. just. new.

many folks here who remember the entire 2000s can remember the pace of how often fighters fight. and it's just incredible relative to now.

the 2000s lol I was in the late 60s , the internet and social media has changed the world in a very big way, back in the day you were at a bar to watch a fight and fans were present if you wanted to talk the sht they do in here you are laying down hands, your only source of boxing news came in magazines there was no youtube or blogs all spinning a narrative, this new age behaviour is all about giving every idiot a voice, most of it is so fake and plastic is evolving, fakes propagating fakes and the people today swallow it all like big mouth Bass hitting a lure, its amazing to have seen it all unfold and youth have no clue to the mess it's all in, its not just boxing its everything.