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  • Mick Higgs
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    #21
    Originally posted by dan-b
    I agree. I am far more interested in long and active reigns in a single division than inactivity and picking off weak belt holders in different weight classes.

    As to Calzaghe, he unfortunately held the WBO when it didn't mean much and probably held it too long. Plus he didn't defend the belts after he beat Kessler.

    He was wrong about his second fight with Veit not being televised in the UK. Eurosport picked it up and I remember watching live (see below). I loved Steve Holdsworth's commentary and he talked about Joe's situation with the WBO during the fight.

    100% agreed!

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    • Bob
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      #22
      Well put Joe.
      British goat.

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      • Combat Talk Radio
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        #23
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg
        Calzaghe would have stopped Alvarez late, Canelo would have been on the receiving end of a two fisted slapping for 12 rounds.
        Canelo wouldn’t sit on the ropes and allow a “Manfredo Stoppage”.

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        • deathofaclown
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          #24
          Originally posted by LAchargers373
          Lmao fresh coming from calzaghe who till every relevant American boxer his weight was over 40 before he came across the pond to challenge them smh
          Hopkins did duck him when he was younger

          He accepted the fight and then pulled out the day after and asked for twice as much when people told him its a tough fight

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #25
            Originally posted by Combat Talk Radio

            Canelo wouldn’t sit on the ropes and allow a “Manfredo Stoppage”.
            Let me correct myself, Canelo wouldn’t have gotten stopped because he would have avoided Calzaghe and made excuses for not fighting him

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            • HandsofIron
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mick Higgs

              Joe's right on this one it was good enough for Monzon & Hagler, so who can argue. Sadly the emergence of the IBF & WBO havan't helped the situation!
              What they should do is have a national champion representing America (IBF) and every other belt consolidated into one international title (WBC, WBA, WBO, IBO).

              ​​​​That way, there will only be one American champ in each weight class and the national champ can fight the international champ for undisputed, world championship supremacy.

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              • MulaKO
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                #27
                Lots of fighters avoided Calzaghe
                It became an all to well known fact that Calzaghe would be a tough fight for many
                With the excuse of going over the pond , many just said fugh it and that was one of the most used excuses by all North American fighters
                My wish would of been if Calzaghe would of made the trip to fight overseas much earlier , he would of been known worldwide and gotten the respect he so damn deserved

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                  #28
                  Yeh stay in your weight class, avoid all the other belt holders for 10 years while you fight trash like Omar Sheika or that Veit bum.

                  Calslappy needs to STFU.
                  Last edited by tonysoprano; 02-23-2024, 08:20 PM.

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                  • daggum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MulaKO
                    Lots of fighters avoided Calzaghe
                    It became an all to well known fact that Calzaghe would be a tough fight for many
                    With the excuse of going over the pond , many just said fugh it and that was one of the most used excuses by all North American fighters
                    My wish would of been if Calzaghe would of made the trip to fight overseas much earlier , he would of been known worldwide and gotten the respect he so damn deserved
                    no they didnt lol. revising history is awfully fun isnt it?

                    calzaghe's own promoter...


                    "You know he grossed 18 million quid with me. That's big money for a guy that wouldn't travel, that wouldn't get off his arse to go and do press."

                    "He wouldn't get on a plane. He said he had a fear of flying. Yet I can remember after one fight he flew to the West Indies for a holiday"

                    "At one stage it got so farcical I had to pay opponents cash up front before they would sign a contract because they were afraid of going through weeks of training camps for nothing when he pulled out."

                    "I lost $100,000 to Glen Johnson when Joe pulled out of a world title fight with him for a second time"

                    yeah this is the guy who wanted the big fights...please. he coasted during his career till the last couple years. he was an opportunist.
                    Last edited by daggum; 02-23-2024, 09:08 PM.

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      no they didnt lol. revising history is awfully fun isnt it?

                      calzaghe's own promoter...


                      "You know he grossed 18 million quid with me. That's big money for a guy that wouldn't travel, that wouldn't get off his arse to go and do press."

                      "He wouldn't get on a plane. He said he had a fear of flying. Yet I can remember after one fight he flew to the West Indies for a holiday"

                      "At one stage it got so farcical I had to pay opponents cash up front before they would sign a contract because they were afraid of going through weeks of training camps for nothing when he pulled out."

                      "I lost $100,000 to Glen Johnson when Joe pulled out of a world title fight with him for a second time"

                      yeah this is the guy who wanted the big fights...please. he coasted during his career till the last couple years.
                      That’s the first time I’ve ever heard anything about Joe like that
                      Well , tell you what , I recall many times North American fighters mentioning his name and threatening to fight him but not many were willing to go see the champ
                      But I do remember myself questioning why he wasn’t coming over

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