Building a strong non-US scene

[The D3vil]

. . . , have tattoos and gold teeth, and suddenly they're on the verge of P4P lists.

Why you gotta talk about Ryan Garcia like that

[Willow The Wisp]

Why you gotta talk about Ryan Garcia like that

Daham dude. Healthy, healthy.

[dan-b]

This thread here reveals some of the bigotry of US boxing fans. Two non-US guys given the opportunity to fight in an IBF eliminator and it's treated with contempt. As demonstrated though, the three American fighters rated above them (see below) likely all turned down the shot because they're too busy trying to talk themselves into a superfight on social media.

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[YGriffith]

The US needs a regional scene and fans need to drop the only follow "the best" **** they do.

[Eff Pandas]

In terms of media we need more magazines (online or otherwise) which prioritise raising the profile of non-US boxers.

Magazines are dead. Back in the day when I was a kid they were half dead. Outside of sites like this where there is real interaction idk that some sort of online magazine would garner a whole lot of attention. Outside of the rankings & story here or there is anyone fooking with Ring on the reg?

To me podcasts & YT channels are the new magazines. And there are plenty of ppl putting out quality content involving US boxers & foreign boxers. Social media is also better at rising profiles than any mag ever did.

[dan-b]

Magazines are dead. Back in the day when I was a kid they were half dead. Outside of sites like this where there is real interaction idk that some sort of online magazine would garner a whole lot of attention. Outside of the rankings & story here or there is anyone fooking with Ring on the reg?

To me podcasts & YT channels are the new magazines. And there are plenty of ppl putting out quality content involving US boxers & foreign boxers. Social media is also better at rising profiles than any mag ever did.

The problems with this are:

1. It's not systematic, often just random exchanges in public.
2. The people who run those channels often don't know how to ask concise and focused questions - their "erm, ya know, kind of" waffling questions can be excruciating.
3. It hugely favours English speaking (primarily American) fighters. A guy like Crawford can rack up hours on YouTube talking about how great he is. Eimantas Stanionis, for example, gets nowhere near this.

So yes, if it all needs to be online in video format that's cool, but we need a more professional looking outfit (ideally with multilinguists on board) with a focus away from the usual American names.

[Eff Pandas]

The problems with this are:

1. It's not systematic, often just random exchanges in public.
2. The people who run those channels often don't know how to ask concise and focused questions - their "erm, ya know, kind of" waffling questions can be excruciating.
3. It hugely favours English speaking (primarily American) fighters. A guy like Crawford can rack up hours on YouTube talking about how great he is. Eimantas Stanionis, for example, gets nowhere near this.

So yes, if it all needs to be online in video format that's cool, but we need a more professional looking outfit (ideally with multilinguists on board) with a focus away from the usual American names.

I didn't suggest it was perfect or at its peak. Its still forming & growing. But thats the future, magazines are the past. I used to love mags myself back in the day but its a near dead market in a technology filled interactive world.

You are living in a US fan bubble I feel like. There are more non-English, non-US podcasts every day. It will grow as we move forward.

I agree their needs to be more skilled operators (on the US side, I can't comment for non-English speaking content cuz I can't understand it & wouldn't be hip to culture sh^t even if I understood it), but there are plenty of guys doing quality work. Theres no one breaking down skills & strategy as well as Boxing Gems & the Cigar Talk guy does more personable, real interviews with boxers than 99% of the guys on any platform boxing is on rn. And I don't doubt there are non-English speaking peers to these ppl & other promising YT cats. In fact now that I think about it there is the Family Time channel that does sh^t on Japanese boxing that does crazy numbers already.

https://youtube.com/@familytimeft?si=4dlbR6PxtT9fMqeL

And I suspect most are already hip to JMM's spanish speaking boxing show. Theres plenty or mfers talking languages I can't understand on social media I assure you. And its only going to grow & ideally become even more translatable than it is with AI technology so I can listen to some Japanese boxing podcast without needing subtitles soon enough.

And there are foreign social media outlets that I assumed you knew about. Granted the US ones trend more international but that doesn't mean non-US ppl can't get big on them.

The sport has been, is & will continue to be world wide.

[Bullrider]

This thread here reveals some of the bigotry of US boxing fans. Two non-US guys given the opportunity to fight in an IBF eliminator and it's treated with contempt. As demonstrated though, the three American fighters rated above them (see below) likely all turned down the shot because they're too busy trying to talk themselves into a superfight on social media.

IBF 147.png

Crowley is Canadian, not American. But he's with PBC, though.

[Don_Jah]

Eff Pandas & dan-b there is a Russian podcast by Grigory Drozd with episodes with many of the key figures in Russian boxing here, the likes of Beterbiev, Bivol, Povetkin etc have been on...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkQyY_CFlpZZgLoljha36iahDy325jUmV

and this one too https://www.youtube.com/@BOXINGSTUDIO

Problem is, they don't show them in English subtitles. I don't understand why they don't, as it would get more interest from around the world, it's a bad mistake.

(I suppose you can could go on the transcipt and translate it, but it's no the most accurate translation)

[dan-b]

Eff Pandas & dan-b there is a Russian podcast by Grigory Drozd with episodes with many of the key figures in Russian boxing here, the likes of Beterbiev, Bivol, Povetkin etc have been on...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkQyY_CFlpZZgLoljha36iahDy325jUmV

and this one too https://www.youtube.com/@BOXINGSTUDIO

Problem is, they don't show them in English subtitles. I don't understand why they don't, as it would get more interest from around the world, it's a bad mistake.

(I suppose you can could go on the transcipt and translate it, but it's no the most accurate translation)

I was glad see the Madrimov - Kurbanov title fight made it onto the Joshua - Ngannou undercard. Good exposure for them.