Worse: Beating a blown up Lightweight or a dehydrated Jr.Middleweight?

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  • THE REED
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    #21
    Originally posted by EMACULATE
    You cant be serious, Marquez put out a challenge to mayweather and what did he really expect mayweather to come down to 130 to fight him. That like Pavlik challenging James Toney and wanting to fight at 160. Its simply not going to happen. Delhoya beat whom in the last three years, ok that will be nobody. He had a hard time versus steve forbes and if he couldn't handle forbes speed then we knew that Pac would give him trouble. Both fights made alot of money, both fighters wanted the fight and the results were what we expected.
    Why would Floyd goto 130? a 135lber and a 147lber meeting at 140 would of been perfectly fine.

    Results of little Pac blowing out Oscar were NOT expected.

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    • PAC-BOY
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      #22
      Never once did Oscar say he was drained. he said Manny was too fast and it felt likre he was in the ring with 10 Mannys but never bitched moaned or complained that he was weight drained. this is a myth that was created by dumb haters.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #23
        To answer the TS's question, beating Marquez. DLH was weight drained and he looked sick the minute he stepped into that ring. Marquez gave a much better account of himself, then Oscar. I'm out of this thread...

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        • shogunn
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          #24
          Originally posted by gqjohnb
          HUH??? lol dehydrated is dehydrated its not something debatable and also marquez said he would be fine coming up too what does that have to do with anything. with that being said I do think that its hard to compare those two situations with such linearity.
          if he was dehydrated he woulnt have sweated so much. By definition, he couldve nearly died. That alone makes it debatable

          Marquez said he'd be fine, when clearly he wasnt. If oscar said the same thing, wouldnt that be similar? is this a case of only looking through floyds view.

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          • them_apples
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            #25
            Originally posted by rommel357
            Manny had no control nor did he ask for Oscar to come in at 141lbs at fight night. He was supposed to weight in at 145lbs. JMM was deliberately asked to come in at 144lbs and yet Floyd deliberately decided not to meet that weight and come in at 146lbs and probably weigh in at 160lbs at fight night.
            Oscar came in at 147
            Manny was 148

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            • them_apples
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              #26
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
              To answer the TS's question, beating Marquez. DLH was weight drained and he looked sick the minute he stepped into that ring. Marquez gave a much better account of himself, then Oscar. I'm out of this thread...
              Are you kidding?

              Marquez looked slow as mud and heavy up top. I knew he had lost as soon as the bell rang. This is coming from someone who was rooting for Marquez the entire way.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #27
                Originally posted by them_apples
                Are you kidding?

                Marquez looked slow as mud and heavy up top. I knew he had lost as soon as the bell rang. This is coming from someone who was rooting for Marquez the entire way.
                That Marquez would have beaten that DLH. Your comparing someone who threw punches to someone who didn't and looked VERY weak.

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                • MANGLER
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                  #28
                  Man, you've really fallen off hard lately El.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mangler
                    Man, you've really fallen off hard lately El.
                    Because?

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                    • larry x
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                      #30
                      pacman fought oscar for money
                      floyd fought jmm as a easy tune up and a leverage in the pacman fight

                      i thought this was pretty obvious

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