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  • Sparked_26
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    #21
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
    Biggest clown in boxing. Hasn’t won one legitimate title his entire career. No World, European, British, Commonwealth, English or even Area.
    This is wild really.

    He's one of those that despite the hype I think ive watched him 3 times max and you just explained why.

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    • Patsfan bri
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      #22
      Come one dude, boots, Ortiz? Don’t act they are ducking your cheating asssss.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boro

        UKAD were the ones to instantly appeal the decision made by "NADP".

        But NADP are just adjudicators and truthfully fighters and UKAD/BBBofC only go to them as a last resort.

        Hoping the government will bail them out of a situation, not realising the government processes are not only woefully inadequate but painfully slow in cases of appeals such as this...

        E.G. Furys VS UKAD, when they both reached a stalemate regarding strict liability and UKADs extremely late results regarding the Hammer fight.
        Just totally untrue.

        Drug hearings in the UK are lead by UKAD, who use the NADP as an independent ruler. Go and check any time a fighter has been banned in this country and how the hearing is structured. Two recent examples being Glowacki and Zolani Tete.

        In Tyson Fury’s case, the NADP made that ruling, not UKAD.

        Any drug testing hearing in the UK is overlooked and decided by the NADP.

        Conor Benn had his hearing with the NAPD, thus UKAD, and won.

        It’s just the literal facts of the matter.


        There is no other process to do, it’s done. All that’s left is the appeal of the decision.

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        • _Rexy_
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          #24
          Originally posted by thack
          There's not a lot of positives regarding little Benn , until he gets himself in front of the BBBOC he's not fighting in England .Where some will buy into his fathers memory.
          No, just the drug tests.

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          • Slip jab
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            #25
            Benn does have a point. Watch boot’s pretend he never heard this. Benn loses to Ortiz but beats boots

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by _Rexy_

              No, just the drug tests.
              Do you hold the same stance for all failed tests?

              Like James Toney’s failed tests for example?

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              • Boro
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                #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                Just totally untrue.

                Drug hearings in the UK are lead by UKAD, who use the NADP as an independent ruler. Go and check any time a fighter has been banned in this country and how the hearing is structured. Two recent examples being Glowacki and Zolani Tete.

                In Tyson Fury’s case, the NADP made that ruling, not UKAD.

                Any drug testing hearing in the UK is overlooked and decided by the NADP.

                Conor Benn had his hearing with the NAPD, thus UKAD, and won.

                It’s just the literal facts of the matter.


                There is no other process to do, it’s done. All that’s left is the appeal of the decision.
                No "any drug testing" isn't overheard by NADP.

                You don't even know what you're talking about, NADP aren't involved unless any athlete from any sport makes the explicit decision to involve them.

                And they're only involved by requesting arbitration before an independent tribunal...

                None of what you said is "facts", it's literally dependant on them not only appealing their ADRVs but also requesting to have NADP present, it's not a given as you've implied but keep thinking it is...

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boro

                  No "any drug testing" isn't overheard by NADP.

                  You don't even know what you're talking about, NADP aren't involved unless any athlete from any sport makes the explicit decision to involve them.

                  And they're only involved by requesting arbitration before an independent tribunal...

                  None of what you said is "facts", it's literally dependant on them not only appealing their ADRVs but also requesting to have NADP present, it's not a given as you've implied but keep thinking it is...
                  Nope, wrong. It’s yourself that doesn’t know what you’re talking about.

                  This is from UKAD’s website;


                  “An individual charged with an ADRV has the right to a fair hearing. The hearing process will determine whether an ADRV has been committed and, if so, the appropriate consequences.

                  Depending on the applicable anti-doping rules, it is likely that the hearing will be held before the NADP.

                  The NADP is a national tribunal and an appeals court body for the UK, entirely independent of sporting governing bodies and UKAD.”

                  I can’t explain it any clearer to you on the process. Look up any time a boxer was charged with a ban in this country and see how the hearing was structured and who made the decision on that hearing.

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                  • Mr WorldWide
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                    I know it’s not just limited to Brits, but damn, they lead the league in saying some of the most outlandish and ridiculous shyt ever heard in boxing.
                    Britts aren't leading the way. Not while Charles Martin is still wandering the earth like a god.

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                    • richardt
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by No look hook
                      Benn does have a point. Watch boot’s pretend he never heard this. Benn loses to Ortiz but beats boots
                      Ortiz is not on the radar because he fights at 154.

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