Is Bivol better than Ward?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #11
    Originally posted by Golgo 13
    How does Bivol’s boxing skills and IQ compare to Andre Ward from 2016-2017?
    - - Bivol is a rare combination of skill and intelligence, however he is well down on Wart's premium skills of head butts, hitting on the break, low blows, rabbit punching, clinching, and not to mention referees all in Wart's pocket.

    They both share the curse of being few pay to see them both in ppv and arena attendance, so they wouldn't be allowed to fight each other except in fantasy fights...

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    • elfag
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      #12
      ward won super six then blew all the momentum by going 5 years of fighting bums and a drained chad dawson. then gets a gift win and a ball punch win with kovalev and retires young. now tells us how great he was and how hed beat everyone every time he announces fights. meanwhile beterbiev is the same age as him and still wrecking everyone.

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        #13
        To put in perspective how big ward's duck was when retiring,, ,he retired at 33 the same age Bivol is now. what if Bivol told everyone "i have nothing left to prove" and retired at 33.

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          #14
          Originally posted by elfag
          To put in perspective how big ward's duck was when retiring,, ,he retired at 33 the same age Bivol is now. what if Bivol told everyone "i have nothing left to prove" and retired at 33.
          Ward had become THE Champion at 168 and 175. Bivol isn’t even the main man at 175 yet.

          Bivol was like 11-0 when Ward retired too. It’s laughable to call that a duck.

          Ward’s body was breaking down too, he had a lot of injuries, I don’t believe he was anywhere near the fighter he was during the Super 6 when he fought Kovalev.

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          • Marchegiano
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            #15
            protect yer nutz boy

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #16
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              protect yer nutz boy
              Watch out for those headbutts too.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #17
                Sure, everybody can be hurt with the punch to the balls.

                Ward was a dirty protected cheat.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  Hell no. Ward takes Bivol to school IMO.
                  SOG I met and he said he fought hurt
                  i like his style

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    Ward had become THE Champion at 168 and 175. Bivol isn’t even the main man at 175 yet.

                    Bivol was like 11-0 when Ward retired too. It’s laughable to call that a duck.

                    Ward’s body was breaking down too, he had a lot of injuries, I don’t believe he was anywhere near the fighter he was during the Super 6 when he fought Kovalev.
                    Not to mention that had Ward not retired, he'd have been ordered to face Badou Jack next, not Bivol. Ward had the Super belt, Jack had the Regular belt, Bivol had the Interim belt.

                    Ward retired which elevated Jack to WBA champion. Jack was then ordered to face Bivol, but he instead chose to challenge WBC and lineal champion Adonis Stevenson. Bivol was thus launched from WBA tertiary champion to primary champion without a fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Zaroku
                      SOG I met and he said he fought hurt
                      i like his style
                      Yeah he was definitely carrying injuries for the second part of his career.

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