Comments Thread For: John Fury: Tyson Probably Took Everything Out of Deontay Wilder, Otto Wallin

[letsgochump]

Nice cope.

[rudy]

Your son lost to a novice

[rudy]

I have always hated this ****** notion that a defeated fighter is somehow always a shell of himself or "vanquished" after a loss. As if they don't go home and heal, recover, and potentially learn from mistakes and get better. This ****** "leftovers" term that won't seem to f****** die off. It's dumb AF as an argument or point when people try to make it. Buster Douglas with 6 losses knocked out a prime undefeated undisputed Mike Tyson. A loss even a bad knockout loss does not mean that suddenly normal dudes off the street have a chance in the ring with the guy.

Because it is so true

[Teetotaler69]

Wallin was easy for Joshua and a real test for Fury. People keep ignoring that Fury hardly ever fights anyone in the top-10. And has struggled against anyone who can box (as opposed to brawl). It's no wonder he spent so long running from AJ and Usyk.

Watch the Cunningham fight. Fury got outboxed by a cruiserweight who turned out to be a terrible HW. Fury said in Joe Rogan interview that could do nothing with Cunningham and admitted cheating to win

Fury IS a very good boxer but he is massively overrated. No one would give AJ a pass if he had only fought TWO top-10 opponents in the last 8 years.

Now Fury is going in against Usyk with no hard fights against top boxers as experience....


As for Wilder - he will be back. He lost some belief after Fury and has hardly boxed.

Lmfao your hating really hard AJ got ALOT of passes wtf are you talking about and windmill pretty much said he's done.

[thack]

Just wonder how many of these clowns are going to be on here come Feb 18th ? or will they be behind the sofa again with Joshua and their other 'little' hero's .IF they were real boxing fans then I'm pretty sure they'd have more constructive attitudes to a massive undisputed 50/50 fight in what they call their sport.Bunch of wankers!

[Oshio]

Maybe the reverse is the case here. Wallin and Wilder took everything out of Fury. That's the reason Ngannou had the heart to be on the front foot

[PRINCEKOOL]

I have always hated this ****** notion that a defeated fighter is somehow always a shell of himself or "vanquished" after a loss. As if they don't go home and heal, recover, and potentially learn from mistakes and get better. This ****** "leftovers" term that won't seem to f****** die off. It's dumb AF as an argument or point when people try to make it. Buster Douglas with 6 losses knocked out a prime undefeated undisputed Mike Tyson. A loss even a bad knockout loss does not mean that suddenly normal dudes off the street have a chance in the ring with the guy.

Yes, it all depends on the stage of the fighters career when the loss occurs.

But naturally? A loss is only going to make a competitive fighter 'Reflect and try their up most best to improve'.

Wallin was chose to fight Fury, because team Fury believe he would be a easy fight 'That all back fired'.

Wallin may have lost the fight 'But he came out of the time knowing, that he pushed Tyson Fury and busted him up real good over 12 rounds'.

That is only going to make a fighter better 'And give them more belief in their ability'. Wallin most likely more so than Wilder, I think? Has fancied himself against any top Heavyweight since fighting Fury.

Wallin has sat back in these past years, and watched Wilder 'Deck and hurt Fury, push him to the limit. But eventually Fury ****** Wilder out'.

Wallin in comparison was not decked or rarely hurt seriously by Tyson Fury.

Anthony Joshua in my opinion, and even in the opinion of certain boxing experts 'Joshua fought and beat a better more experienced version of Wallin than Fury. Wallin was coming off his best ever wins, right before fighting Joshua'.

Note: Francis Ngannou also, I believe is going to be a better boxing version of himself vs Anthony Joshua 'Ngannou has to be, he knows that in reality he beat Tyson Fury'. Every single man here knows this? Whether it be in the school playground or on the street coming up in life, we all know instinctively when he have won a fight'.

I have told hardcore Fury fans this 'They know instinctively that Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury'. The only why they can rationalize a Fury win, is to try and get all technical, but even that tactic does not convince them totally. Because the statistics of the fight, also proves that Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury'.

Ngannou landed the highest number of power punches, Ngannou inflicted the most damage, Ngannou scored a knock-down 'Fury only merely out landed Ngannou by 11 punches. Punches that did not score any knock-downs, or inflict any serious damage upon Ngannou 'Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury'.

Ngannou has gained more from fighting Fury, than what Fury himself gained from fighting Ngannou 'The experience was invaluable, and I believe has made him a better fighter' etc.

[TookHerToThe0]

And let me guess, when Joshua beats Ngannou easily it'll be because Fury took everything out of Ngannou too?

Fury took everything out of Klitschko as well, that's the only reason Joshua beat him. Those herky-jerky feints just ruin fighters...

Fury did ruin Wlad. The mental effects of that fight messed Wlad up. Styles make fights. That’s why Joshua struggled and should really of been stopped.

[N/A]

Yes, it all depends on the stage of the fighters career when the loss occurs.

But naturally? A loss is only going to make a competitive fighter 'Reflect and try their up most best to improve'.

Wallin was chose to fight Fury, because team Fury believe he would be a easy fight 'That all back fired'.

Wallin may have lost the fight 'But he came out of the time knowing, that he pushed Tyson Fury and busted him up real good over 12 rounds'.

That is only going to make a fighter better 'And give them more belief in their ability'. Wallin most likely more so than Wilder, I think? Has fancied himself against any top Heavyweight since fighting Fury.

Wallin has sat back in these past years, and watched Wilder 'Deck and hurt Fury, push him to the limit. But eventually Fury ****** Wilder out'.

Wallin in comparison was not decked or rarely hurt seriously by Tyson Fury.

Anthony Joshua in my opinion, and even in the opinion of certain boxing experts 'Joshua fought and beat a better more experienced version of Wallin than Fury. Wallin was coming off his best ever wins, right before fighting Joshua'.

Note: Francis Ngannou also, I believe is going to be a better boxing version of himself vs Anthony Joshua 'Ngannou has to be, he knows that in reality he beat Tyson Fury'. Every single man here knows this? Whether it be in the school playground or on the street coming up in life, we all know instinctively when he have won a fight'.

I have told hardcore Fury fans this 'They know instinctively that Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury'. The only why they can rationalize a Fury win, is to try and get all technical, but even that tactic does not convince them totally. Because the statistics of the fight, also proves that Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury'.

Ngannou landed the highest number of power punches, Ngannou inflicted the most damage, Ngannou scored a knock-down 'Fury only merely out landed Ngannou by 11 punches. Punches that did not score any knock-downs, or inflict any serious damage upon Ngannou 'Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury'.

Ngannou has gained more from fighting Fury, than what Fury himself gained from fighting Ngannou 'The experience was invaluable, and I believe has made him a better fighter' etc.

A lot written with little validity (doesn't even correspond to CompuBox for Fury-Ngannou, little all the rules and the scoring system). A novel over one topic doesn't make it real.

Even pumping AJ how he faces better versions. But it's always him after Fury. By the way, Fury handled Whyte way better. But ok, you are a hardcore AJ fan.

You claim AJ fought a better version of Wlad, but this is far from the truth, just because Wlad got his ego busted and was two years older. Yet, AJ barely survived. His victory might have been through a more brawling, but it's just becaue Fury seriously outclassed Wlad and didn't need to do much to humiliate him. Yes, it was less of spectacle, but just becaue Fury was, as I said, capable of winning with a light effort.

AJ won more convincingly over Otto because Otto was his sparring partner. But anyway, no one ever claimed Fury is the bigger puncher of the two. How about Fury who faced better Whyte and beat him way better than AJ did? You really are a fact-twister and a very desperate AJ lover.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fury did ruin Wlad. The mental effects of that fight messed Wlad up. Styles make fights. That’s why Joshua struggled and should really of been stopped.

Tyson Fury did not destroy or ruin Wladimir Kiltschko 'If was Fury who never turned up for their rematch. Fury won one fight vs Kiltschko, but he did not win the overall battle'.

Fury never decked, significantly hurt or knock out Wladimir Kiltschko 'Fury never turned up for the rematch'.

It was unfortunate for Tyson Fury, but that is the reality of the situation.

Tyson Fury never decked or beat up Wladimir Kiltschko 'He won over the distance, in a underwhelming fight. But it was still a mega win for Fury, a great win'.

Wladimir Kiltschko was a Champion for close to 10 years and? Had suffered more brutal loses before in his career 'And came back'.

Wladimir Kiltschko initiated his rematch clause for Tyson Fury 'Kiltschko in his career to date, had never lost a rematch'.

Tyson Fury pulled out of their scheduled rematch twice 'The Wladimir Kiltschko vs Tyson Fury II, was rescheduled twice and Fury pulled out of that fight twice unfortunately due to his circumstance'.

Due to Fury continually pulling out of their scheduled rematch 'Wladimir Kiltschko endured 3 back to back training camps, before fighting Anthony Joshua'.

Anthony Joshua was back then, and even now contrary to certain narratives 'Joshua is a more aggressive, destructive and powerful puncher than Tyson Fury'.

If Tyson Fury had destroyed or ruined Wladimir Kiltschko 'Then there would be no way, that he would of been able to produce the type of great effort that he did vs Anthony Joshua'.

Note: Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years 'On April 28th 2017, that was the night when the Heavyweight Division was conclusively taken into a completely new dynasty by Anthony Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko's effort that he produce in that fight, was admirable and inspiring 'Kiltschko fought until there was no more, even the critics had to give the man respect. That night Wladimir Kiltschko knew that his Championship had truly been taken from him'.

That is the difference between Kiltschko's loss vs Fury, compared to Joshua 'Kiltschko lost a fight vs Fury, but he did not lose the battle. That first fight was the start of the battle. Winning one fight on points vs a dominant Champion of close to 10 years in Wladimir Kiltschko is not enough to destroy or ruin that caliber of fighter'.

No fighter really destroyed or ruined Wladimir Kiltschko 'Kiltschko's last fight, was one of his best fights in terms of his resolve, determination, all the immaterial aspects of what made Kiltschko a Champion? Became apparent for everyone to see in that fight. It was a great effort by a dominant Champion, to try and win back his Title's'.

Anthony Joshua win vs Wladimir Kiltschko was a more conclusive win, that is why Wladimir Kiltschko retired 'Kiltschko was given the opportunity of a rematch, but did not take that fight' etc.