Comments Thread For: John Fury: Tyson Probably Took Everything Out of Deontay Wilder, Otto Wallin

[TookHerToThe0]

Ok I can perhaps agree about wilder. But WALLIN?! Wtf. No way did Tyson take anything out of wallin. That’s a legit win for Joshua and he looked a lot more comfortable than he has for a long time. Nothing to be taken away from that win.

[TookHerToThe0]

Fury might not have taken everything out of Wilde, and Wallin, but he definitely took a lot out of them both.
Fury's just has to stop taking those long layoff's, and getting so fat/out of shape between his fight's.
He's a hell of a boxer-puncher, and that's already been established throughout the course of his boxing career.

Didn’t wallin beat both breazeale and gassiev after facing fury? And Otto looked just as good in those fights as he did against fury.

Joshua beat wallin and Otto wasn’t any less of a man. If you said maybe Otto turned up for the payday then I’d tend to see that notion maybe.

people (not accusing you) seem to wanna take something away from Joshua’s win over wallin and it’s hard to understand why.

Wallin cut fury and had a couple of decent rounds. Otherwise than that he was dogged by fury. Wallin made it interesting at times and was dirty and trying to worsen fury’s cut.

[pollywog]

people (not accusing you) seem to wanna take something away from Joshua’s win over wallin and it’s hard to understand why.

Cos people think he should have been fighting Wilder without needing a tune up bout against his sparring partner.

It was a good win cos he did what he was set up to do just less of a challenge than Dr Sleep would have posed.

[daggum]

Cos people think he should have been fighting Wilder without needing a tune up bout against his sparring partner.

It was a good win cos he did what he was set up to do just less of a challenge than Dr Sleep would have posed.

they tried to make the fight but the big money wasnt there for that date so they signed to fight if they both won and they would have both received 50 million. i suppose they both could have agreed to fight for much much less first? kinda a ****** thing to do if you know there is 50 million just on the horizon why would you sell yourself short? this is a business i thought... wilder just lost. it wasnt joshua ducking and is silly to say that. wilder just isnt that good and was overhyped based on power that really wasnt ever there. dr sleep? his ko ratio against legit fighters is paltry but that hype got a lot of people.

ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


ali-50% 18 out of 36
louis-75% 24 out of 32
liston-63% 7 out of 11
patterson-35% 7 out of 20
foreman-58% 7 out of 12
holmes-52% 12 out of 23
marciano-80% 8 out of 10
bowe-60% 3 out of 5
lewis-53% 8 out of 15
fury-60% 3 out of 5
vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
joshua-50% 5 out of 10
tyson-53% 8 out of 15
holyfield-30% 6 out of 20
wilder-28% 2 out of 7


biggest puncher in boxing history though?

[pollywog]

... they both could have agreed to fight for much much less first? kinda a ****** thing to do if you know there is 50 million just on the horizon why would you sell yourself short?

Hmmm...would i take a guaranteed 20 million now, or risk that for a possible 50 million and nothing at all if i lost.

****** me would take the 20 mil and put on a show to give the fans what they want. Forget looking ahead to the horizon.

Is that selling myself short ? 20 mil is a whole lotta change...

[archiemoore1]

I guess the moral of the story is, The Gypsy King knocked Beyonce Wilder's brains out 2x's and now he ain't the same no more. He beat the sh...t outta that dumb hog eating bama

[daggum]

Hmmm...would i take a guaranteed 20 million now, or risk that for a possible 50 million and nothing at all if i lost.

****** me would take the 20 mil and put on a show to give the fans what they want. Forget looking ahead to the horizon.

Is that selling myself short ? 20 mil is a whole lotta change...

well wilder wanted that 50 million so not sure what to tell you. he gambled on himself...he lost. thats also a strawman argument because they dont get nothing if they lose, wilder was apparently just offered a big fight vs zhang for millions more even though he lost.

[dannnnn]

And let me guess, when Joshua beats Ngannou easily it'll be because Fury took everything out of Ngannou too?

Fury took everything out of Klitschko as well, that's the only reason Joshua beat him. Those herky-jerky feints just ruin fighters...

[Boricua181]

Didn’t wallin beat both breazeale and gassiev after facing fury? And Otto looked just as good in those fights as he did against fury.

Joshua beat wallin and Otto wasn’t any less of a man. If you said maybe Otto turned up for the payday then I’d tend to see that notion maybe.

people (not accusing you) seem to wanna take something away from Joshua’s win over wallin and it’s hard to understand why.

Wallin cut fury and had a couple of decent rounds. Otherwise than that he was dogged by fury. Wallin made it interesting at times and was dirty and trying to worsen fury’s cut.

I didn't mention Joshua at all in the particular post that you're referring to, the post was to point out Fury's abilities, not to down grade Joshua's abilities.

[El_Mero]

Wilder yes. Wallin? lol...he gave it to Tyson