Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: "If Beterbiev Beats Bivol, You Gotta Start Considering Him As Number One Pound For Pound"

[MulaKO]

Only you are saying that.

Nice try Jakey Boy
C’mon let’s make much more interesting

[MulaKO]

Fugh me did it get. Quiet

[Eff Pandas]

I didn't consider P4P yesterday so I won't consider P4P in June regardless if Beterbiev beats Bivol or Bivol beats Beterbiev.

[MulaKO]

Only you are saying that.

Quiet hey Jakey Boy

Your right , my mistake
It clearly says Jakey The Joke
Paper Champion

[Elastic Recoilz]

I would say Bivol has a little better resume. It is 2-1 in Bivol`s favor.

Bivol beat Canelo and Ramirez, twoo guys many casuals expected him to lose to.

Beterbiev beat Gvozdyk, that is his legacy win so far.

Otherwise both guys beat guys they were expected to beat.

Canelo was a guy moving up in weight who should've unofficially taken Ls to GGG and Lara and who got absolutely taken to school by Mayweather. Ramirez's 45 - 0 record was mainly padded up with Mexican binmen and postmen. He fought a few contenders but was incredibly overrated not to mention the fact that he lost to Jesse Hart and had to rely on paid off judges to bail him out.

Gvozdyk on the other hand was an Olympic bronze medallist and was the undefeated wbc and lineal light heavyweight champion - Beterbiev broke him down physically and mentally until Gvozdyk had nothing more to give.

I mean when was the last time Bivol had a KO? If Lyndon Arthur goes the distance with him its quite reasonable to assume he poses no threat to beterbiev.

[MulaKO]

Canelo was a guy moving up in weight who should've unofficially taken Ls to GGG and Lara and who got absolutely taken to school by Mayweather. Ramirez's 45 - 0 record was mainly padded up with Mexican binmen and postmen. He fought a few contenders but was incredibly overrated not to mention the fact that he lost to Jesse Hart and had to rely on paid off judges to bail him out.

Gvozdyk on the other hand was an Olympic bronze medallist and was the undefeated wbc and lineal light heavyweight champion - Beterbiev broke him down physically and mentally until Gvozdyk had nothing more to give.

I mean when was the last time Bivol had a KO? If Lyndon Arthur goes the distance with him its quite reasonable to assume he poses no threat to beterbiev.

I mean when was the last time Bivol had a KO? If Lyndon Arthur goes the distance with him its quite reasonable to assume he poses no threat to beterbiev.

I’m a huge Artur fan but he does pose a risk of sort
The only problem is he gonna meet his match
The so called mauler is very good boxer , with amazing boxing iq and of course that power
But he needs his team to map it out , which his team is good at
I’m not a big Ramsey fan but with Scully and Anber , he has much boxing quality all around and it works well
I favour him to win big time but it won’t be easy
I see it as the Gvodzyk fight , just much more digging and deeper

[BustedKnuckles]

Beating everybody in your weight class gets you moderate p4p points

Destroying everybody in your weight class gets you lots of p4p points.

Beating everybody above your weight class gets you mega p4p points.

Destroying everybody above your weight class gets you super mega p4p points.

If Beterbiev beats Bivol which I don't think he will, that would still only get him on the first bracket. Moderate p4p points.

The p4p list is a joke. You got fools (who i won't even say no names) not even the best in their own weight classes on there just because they're popular.

I agree with the assessment but not your conclusion. If Beterbiev destroys Bivol, that puts him in the second bracket (not the first) because as you said...

"Destroying everybody in your weight class gets you lots of p4p points."

He doesnt just beat ("moderate points") he destroys ("lots of points").

I like him in Top 5 personally for that reason, because after Inoue, crawford, and Usyk (with debate) I dont see how anyone else would go there. Canelo could, but certainly not based on recent competition.

[Airtioteclint]

I agree with the assessment but not your conclusion. If Beterbiev destroys Bivol, that puts him in the second bracket (not the first) because as you said...

"Destroying everybody in your weight class gets you lots of p4p points."

He doesnt just beat ("moderate points") he destroys ("lots of points").

I like him in Top 5 personally for that reason, because after Inoue, crawford, and Usyk (with debate) I dont see how anyone else would go there. Canelo could, but certainly not based on recent competition.

I said if he beats Bivol not if he destroys him. But you're right. Second bracket is his best case scenario after the fight.

[AKAcronym]

I would say Bivol has a little better resume. It is 2-1 in Bivol`s favor.

Bivol beat Canelo and Ramirez, twoo guys many casuals expected him to lose to.

Beterbiev beat Gvozdyk, that is his legacy win so far.

Otherwise both guys beat guys they were expected to beat.

Who cares what the casuals think. The Canelo fight, yes, he was favored to lose, even by industry pros. That wasn't the case against Ramirez. Nobody was confidently picking Gilberto to win. Gvozdyk was favored to beat Beterbiev, so that's a legit win. Don't know why Zurdo is held in similar regard to Canelo and Gvozdyk.

[BustedKnuckles]

I said if he beats Bivol not if he destroys him. But you're right. Second bracket is his best case scenario after the fight.

I think theres no road for beterbiev to beat bivol without destroying him.