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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dare7 View Post
    I don't really know what to say about Lennox Lewis at this point. He is always on AJ's case. He is blaming AJ for the fight not happening between AJ & Wilder but fail to acknowledge that Wilder turned down legit money from DAZN and instead lied he had $50 million to give AJ with no proof of funds.

    When Fury fought Wallin and Ngannou,I heard no complaining from him. When Fury messed up the fight between #AJFury, I heard no noise from Lennox but now he thinks he a determine factor in how fights should be arranged. Lennox should go relax.

    Lennox Lewis is only mad AJ turned him down to be his manager and the fact AJ called him a clown peppered him a lot.
    When Fury fought Wallin he was making a comeback and wasn't a champion. Wallin was also like #3 in the WBA ranking.
    Hearn has admitted multiple times that he called off the Fury fight because AJ would get demolished. AJ also did everything to avoid mentioning Fury up until recently where Fury embarrassed himself against Ngannou.

    Not complaining about Ngannou and Chisora are genuine arguments, but not the others.
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    • #22
      IBF is stripping the winner of Fury-Usyk, so it's a moot point, isn't it?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
        If you look at the "top guys"

        AJ - coming off 3 wins but none of them were great opponents, 2 losses to the unified champ before that but he has a big name and is a former champion who had a respectable reign.

        Ngannou - has a name, lost to the current lineal champ by 1 point.

        Zhang - has an official loss to Hrgovic, beat Joyce twice which sounds good on paper but Joyce was very unproven and that's all Zhang has. Which is kind of pathetic for a 40 year old.

        Hrgovic - "beat" Zhang for his only good win which was supposed to be an easy fight, hasn't fought anyone else.

        Sanchez - ZERO good wins

        Parker - Good win over Wilder at least on paper but Wilder was 1-2 in his last 3 fights, two by Ko and Parker only UD'd him, Wilder had a mental breakdown after his last ko win over helenius and was crying and hugging helenius, Wilder is mentally shot. also parker has a recent brutal KO loss the worst loss of anyone on this list.


        So, I dunno Lennox Lewis I'd say there isn't anyone on that list that has really "earned" their place ahead of any of the others in the queue, it's much of a muchness.

        The reality is Lennox is under the paymasters of the USA boxing media who hate AJ because he's a popular and marketable star who isn't American and doesn't suck off USA boxing. Well I'm sorry Americans you should build another statue to your best heavyweight of the last 30 years which is Wilder and hope you keep getting invited to cover events in the Mecca of boxing, Riyad. You won't have anyone participating, but enjoy.
        But did Hrgovic really beat Zhang???

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
          If you look at the "top guys"

          AJ - coming off 3 wins but none of them were great opponents, 2 losses to the unified champ before that but he has a big name and is a former champion who had a respectable reign.

          Ngannou - has a name, lost to the current lineal champ by 1 point.

          Zhang - has an official loss to Hrgovic, beat Joyce twice which sounds good on paper but Joyce was very unproven and that's all Zhang has. Which is kind of pathetic for a 40 year old.

          Hrgovic - "beat" Zhang for his only good win which was supposed to be an easy fight, hasn't fought anyone else.

          Sanchez - ZERO good wins

          Parker - Good win over Wilder at least on paper but Wilder was 1-2 in his last 3 fights, two by Ko and Parker only UD'd him, Wilder had a mental breakdown after his last ko win over helenius and was crying and hugging helenius, Wilder is mentally shot. also parker has a recent brutal KO loss the worst loss of anyone on this list.


          So, I dunno Lennox Lewis I'd say there isn't anyone on that list that has really "earned" their place ahead of any of the others in the queue, it's much of a muchness.

          The reality is Lennox is under the paymasters of the USA boxing media who hate AJ because he's a popular and marketable star who isn't American and doesn't suck off USA boxing. Well I'm sorry Americans you should build another statue to your best heavyweight of the last 30 years which is Wilder and hope you keep getting invited to cover events in the Mecca of boxing, Riyad. You won't have anyone participating, but enjoy.
          Hrgovic fought Mark "The Beast" De Mori - and WON. He's the most accomplished fighter today.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
            Hates that AJ didnt fight Wilder for undisputed while both in their primes....yet held off on Mike Tyson until.Tyson was just a shell of himself.
            No that is not what happened & it is well documented that Tyson ducked Lewis until he was broke & needed money in 2002. In 1996 Lewis had got himself back into the WBC #1 spot years after losing to Oliver McCall. Tyson lost a court battle to Lewis & was forced to face him. Tyson & Don King gave Lewis a 4 million step aside fee (Believe it was Lewis’ biggest payday at the time) & a guaranteed shot after he unified with WBA champion Bruce Seldon. We all know what happened in the Seldon fight & then Tyson vacated his WBC belt instead of giving Lewis his shot. Then magically Oliver McCall was placed in the WBC #2 slot thanks to King’s money & influence. McCall was coming out of drug rehab with serious mental issues & got to face Lewis in a rematch for the vacant belt. He had the mental breakdown & started crying. Lewis did everything he could to try & face Tyson but he avoided Lennox like the plague until he needed money.
            Last edited by joe strong; 01-18-2024, 09:57 AM.
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            • #26
              Lennox on point! hell this MMA guy is a side show and he should get paid if he can, but deserving of a title fight, hell no!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Dare7 View Post

                So how many big fights between AJ and someone failed? It's only Wilder and Fury and we know the reasons why except you want to be bias. According to fighters that have fought AJ, AJ is easier to make a fight with plus he is the cash cow. AJ consciously won IBF, WBA and WBO belts but will run away from fighting the WBC champion? That doesn't make sense.

                To Lennox Lewis, it's true he has his right to like and dislike someone and give opinion about them but when it becomes a norm and pattern then you can't help but to reason there are deep reasons for that.

                Regarding who will fight the winner of Usyk vs Fury, the Saudis decide that now coz they are the ones with the money. The power has been shifted from the boxing organization bodies, promoters & Networks to the Saudis hands because the others are about BS but the Saudis are not playing around. They want their fantasy fights to become reality plus they have the money to pay.

                Also we know the Britains want to see AJ vs Fury coz it's a big match and if Fury wins then the Saudi will use the undisputed title as clause to make AJ vs Fury. Plus we know Fury is all about the money and AJ is the money way. So if you want to get well paid AJ is the fight to make with to get that big payday.

                Yes, when the owner of the WBC had a right hand that could knock your suspect head off. It makes perfect sense. Andy Ruiz had AJ all over the floor and he probably has 40% the power in his right hand that Wilder has/had.

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                • #28
                  With those paydays, who cares about belts and status. As long as Joshua is making $50m+ per fight, he could care less if he ever fights for any belt again.

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                  • #29
                    After what Ngannou did against Fury, it presents as a credible fight.

                    But yes, there's risk there for Joshua, though he should win.

                    Lennox Lewis, I think his skill level was higher than any heavyweight today.

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                    • #30
                      i can picture the face AJ would put on if he saw lennox at an airport or somewhere, beanie on, earbuds in & scowl at full blast glare over at him now and then

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