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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #141
    So Joshua`s run after two loses is Franklin, Helenius, Wallin, Ngannou.

    Wow, Usyk ruined this guy pretty bad.

    Zhang lost to Hrgovic and fought another top 10 guy in Joyce in next fight.

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    • Atypicalbrit
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      #142
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      So Joshua`s run after two loses is Franklin, Helenius, Wallin, Ngannou.

      Wow, Usyk ruined this guy pretty bad.

      Zhang lost to Hrgovic and fought another top 10 guy in Joyce in next fight.
      How many world title fight wins Zhang got?

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      • PittyPat
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        #143
        Originally posted by dan-b

        Which is such a bizarre thing for fans of sport to care about. You don't personally benefit from the money at all.
        Not that bizarre. If I'm entertained by an artist or athlete, I wish them well.

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        • Mr Giggles
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          #144
          AJ has it way easier against Ngannou than fury did. Nobody expected Ngannou to do anything vs fury so all the pressure was on fury, plus fury didn’t know how Ngannou would box, he couldn’t prepare properly, he was going into the unknown.

          AJ knows how Ngannou boxes now and can prepare accordingly for that. He also doesn’t have the same amount of pressure that fury had. If anything, Ngannou now has the pressure as people are now expecting more from him.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Rockybigblower

            Why didn't you end this starement by saying "and Joshua has been comprehensively beaten twice by Usyk. You have tried to big up AJ with your narrative...but by your logic...at the end of the day Usyk is the only one that remains technically "unbeaten"....unless of course you want to claim he lost to Chisora.
            Mike Tyson had already been beaten by Buster Douglas and Evander Holyfield, by the time? The Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis fight occurred 'That was the conclusive fight, which decided who the last man standing was from the 90's era of Heavyweights'.

            It does not really matter whether Joshua has been beaten by Usyk. Was Joshua beaten to the point where? His team and family are pressuring him to retire? No 'They were not those type of fights mate, Joshua was not decked, beaten up or knocked out. Joshua lost twice vs Usyk in competitive fights'.

            Anthony Joshua has not retried, Joshua is still wining fights 'And he is still by the looks of it, still fighting off Tyson Fury's nearest competition'.

            Joshua fought off Wladimir Kiltschko, it was Joshua who conclusively took the Heavyweight division into this new era and dynasty 'Not Tyson Fury'.

            Tyson Fury won one fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko over the distance. Kiltschko did not retire after that loss to Fury 'Kiltschko initiated his rematch clause'.

            Wladimir Kiltschko was a Champion of close to 10 years, losing 1 fight over the distance 'Was not enough to totally defeat him'.

            The competition between Fury and Kiltschko, had developed into a battle 'A battle is a collection of fights'.

            And the fact of boxing history is? Was that Tyson Fury did not turn up for that battle vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Tyson Fury did not follow through with is rematch vs Kiltscko'.

            Anthony Joshua in his 19th professionally fight stepped into that battle, and he fought the version of Kiltschko 'Who Fury should of faced in their scheduled rematch, but did not unfortunately due to his circumstance'.

            2017 April 28th, Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years 'Joshua beat up and knocked out Kiltschko, forcing him to retire and taking the Heavyweight Division into a completely new Dynasty'.

            And look what is happening all these years later? Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury fight took place on October 28rd 2023 'The world witnessed Tyson Fury get decked and beaten up. Fury was given the decision, but many experts in the sport all shared the consensus that Fury did not win the fight'.

            So somebody, a Heavyweight out there has got to beat Francis Ngannou 'Because Tyson Fury did not beat Nagnnou. Nagnnou has been given a top-10 WBC ranking, There are people out there within the sport of boxing, who after October 28th 2023, they all claimed that Francis Ngannou is the uncrowned Lineal and WBC Heavyweight Champion of the World'.

            If the Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua fight takes place 'Joshua just like he did vs Kiltschko, will be fighting off Fury's nearest competition for him'. Joshua for the second time in his career, will be fighting Fury's battle's inside the ring'.

            Note: People can deny the dynamics of this competition all they want 'But a competition to see who will be the last man standing from this era, does not just come to a conclusion after 1 fight. All these fights that are happening, in regards to the top - 4 fighters are all having a effect upon the Heavyweight landscape. Ever single fight that Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua compete in 'Have been resulting in tectonic shifts'.

            And it seems to be accelerating, people cannot just pass over fights 'If Joshua fights Ngannou, and actually beats him for real. All this does is improve his standing in the competition 'To see who will be the last man standing of this era'.

            Fury has not fought off Joshua, and Usyk although he has beaten Joshua twice 'Has not inflicted the type of loses on Joshua, that invalidates a third fight between the two fighters' etc.





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            • Stab Master Arson
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              #146
              Originally posted by Mr Giggles
              AJ has it way easier against Ngannou than fury did. Nobody expected Ngannou to do anything vs fury so all the pressure was on fury, plus fury didn’t know how Ngannou would box, he couldn’t prepare properly, he was going into the unknown.

              AJ knows how Ngannou boxes now and can prepare accordingly for that. He also doesn’t have the same amount of pressure that fury had. If anything, Ngannou now has the pressure as people are now expecting more from him.
              Don't make excuses for Fury. He was fighting a guy who never boxed before. He should've been able to end the fight whenever he wanted to, rather than embarrassing himself and the entire sport.

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              • Mr Giggles
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                #147
                Originally posted by Stab Master Arson

                Don't make excuses for Fury. He was fighting a guy who never boxed before. He should've been able to end the fight whenever he wanted to, rather than embarrassing himself and the entire sport.
                I couldn’t give a stuff about fury.

                AJ knows what to prepare for, he’s seen how Ngannou fights now, so it’s much easier to prepare for him now, that’s just facts, it’s a lot easier for AJ or anyone fighting Ngannou now

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                • Stab Master Arson
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Mr Giggles

                  I couldn’t give a stuff about fury.

                  AJ knows what to prepare for, he’s seen how Ngannou fights now, so it’s much easier to prepare for him now, that’s just facts, it’s a lot easier for AJ or anyone fighting Ngannou now
                  He's a total novice who'd never boxed before, it should be easy for any professional HW worth a ****.

                  You think Fury drops Francis and goes to a SD under MMA rules? Me neither.

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                  • Mr Giggles
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Stab Master Arson

                    He's a total novice who'd never boxed before, it should be easy for any professional HW worth a ****.

                    You think Fury drops Francis and goes to a SD under MMA rules? Me neither.
                    And what happens in a rematch, Fury easily outboxes Ngannou and most likely stops him late cause he now knows what to prepare for and how to prepare, simple.

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                    • Stab Master Arson
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Mr Giggles

                      And what happens in a rematch, Fury easily outboxes Ngannou and most likely stops him late cause he now knows what to prepare for and how to prepare, simple.
                      It's embarrassing you believe a professional boxer who is the lineal champ requires footage of a total novice in order to win a fight.

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