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  • #41
    Originally posted by Smash View Post

    wow thats odd isnt it? i mean i though half life & then cleared from body, well if that is the stuff that fury did take then maybe its a bad ped to take seems to me on the surface anyway, high window for getting caught or am i missing something obvious here
    "Deca" (nandrolone decanoate) is a long acting oil based injectable depot and, as such, has a long detection period.

    You're right, logically it's a bad choice for drug tested athletes but, many dont realise the detection times and/or cycle when not in a testing period but it shows up months later.

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    ​​​Also PEDs are often obtained via "black market" sources and it's a crap shoot what's in them.

    Thanks.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
      I can see this happening,

      April it will be 2 years since he has fought in the UK.

      So fighting another journeyman in the US for now.

      Once it's past April they will then accept a backdated 2 year ban from the bbbofc

      And then fight again in the UK later this year in a bout approved by the bbbofc.
      Similar to what Fury did with his "retirement" etc!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        How do yo know it was based off jurisdiction? The contents of NADP hearings are confidential. We don’t know what evidence was presented in his hearing.

        He has been brought to account. He’s had his hearing, he won it. Right or wrong, that’s just how it is.

        It’s now time to move on.
        It's already been reported that the NADP hearing/decision was based on "jurisdiction".

        Previous cases suggest Benn should be in line to get something like a four year ban similar to Glowaki and others.

        Then move on with his career.

        More likely is that he'll get dealt with like Fury because he has the same level of financial backing.
        Last edited by tokon; 01-08-2024, 06:14 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by tokon View Post

          It's already been reported that the NADP hearing/decision was based on "jurisdiction".

          Previous cases suggest Benn should be in line to get something like a four year ban similar to Glowaki and others.

          Then move on with his career.

          More likely is that he'll get dealt with like Fury because he has the same level of financial backing.
          Reported where? Do you have a source for that? I’m struggling to see how that’s possible when NADP hearings are confidential?

          How can you base it off previous cases when they’re confidential cases? None of us know what evidence was presented in these cases. It’s just guess work and media nonsense.

          What do you mean most likely? It’s already been dealt with. He’s had his case and won it (appeal pending)
          Last edited by IronDanHamza; 01-08-2024, 11:25 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Smash

            maybe fury didnt test positive for 'deca' at all, to my amateur eyes it seems that could be different to nandrolone itself & nandrolone it seems to me can also be taken in oral tablet form, which seems to me (internet small reading here) that the detection time is much lower for the tablet form so MIGHT make more sense to try to cheat off this than the other inject stuff which seems crazy to try even tho lots get caught with it, victor conte im sure and others would know whats what im sure
            Yes there's an oral form of nandrolone but you mentioned "nandrolone decanoate"., and yes oral steroids generally clear quicker than oil-based Injection forms.

            Who knows what the Fury's were on, or thought they were on, it's not like they're gonna tell the truth about it.
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            • #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Reported where? Do you have a source for that? I’m struggling to see how that’s possible when NADP hearings are confidential?

              How can you base it off previous cases when they’re confidential cases? None of us know what evidence was presented in these cases. It’s just guess work and media nonsense.

              What do you mean most likely? It’s already been dealt with. He’s had his case and won it (appeal pending)
              You're the guy that told someone else on another post on this thread to read up on other cases?

              Anyway, whatever, we see this differently. That's fine too. Thanks.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by tokon View Post

                You're the guy that told someone else on another post on this thread to read up on other cases?

                Anyway, whatever, we see this differently. That's fine too. Thanks.
                Yeah as to how they work, I.e the structure of the drug testing cases, not the contents of the cases because the contents of the case are confidential.

                I don’t understand what’s to see differently? Connor Benn has had his hearing and he won. None of us have any idea what evidence was presented and the reason as to why, but we do know he’s had it and won it.

                That’s just the facts of the matter.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                  Yeah as to how they work, I.e the structure of the drug testing cases, not the contents of the cases because the contents of the case are confidential.

                  I don’t understand what’s to see differently? Connor Benn has had his hearing and he won. None of us have any idea what evidence was presented and the reason as to why, but we do know he’s had it and won it.

                  That’s just the facts of the matter.
                  Yes, there's been "a hearing", Benn's suspension has been lifted, and both ukad and bbbc are appealing that decision. However, as I've already said, we obviously have a different perspective in this and that's just the facts of the matter. Thanks.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by tokon View Post

                    Yes, there's been "a hearing", Benn's suspension has been lifted, and both ukad and bbbc are appealing that decision. However, as I've already said, we obviously have a different perspective in this and that's just the facts of the matter. Thanks.
                    Why do you put hearing in quotation marks?

                    Like I said I’m not sure what different perspective there is to have. It’s black and white.

                    He had his hearing and he won it. Appeal pending, he’ll be licensed.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by tokon View Post



                      Who knows what the Fury's were on, or thought they were on, it's not like they're gonna tell the truth about it.
                      Thats for sure

                      Well in the criminal world if u plead guilty to something u get a discount on your sentence, maybe they should apply this to the sports cheaters world, admit your guilt and explain all & take half the sentence or something like that might be good

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