Comments Thread For: Krzysztof Glowacki Hit With Four-Year Ban By UKAD Over Failed Test in Riakporhe Fight

[greeneye99]

USADA and VADA test in the same WADA lab. They're two of the same.

VADA doesn't always catch them. How could you possibly say that? They catch them the time they're caught, every time before that they don't catch them.

VADA is no more difficult to beat than USADA or UKAD. They're all random testing procedures. Fighters beat VADA with the same tactics they use to beat the others.

USADA catch a whole lot of athletes too. Look at the number of UFC fighters have been caught in the last 10 years under their USADA program. Doesn't mean it isn't beatable.

Bro
It's been proven since 2011 when VADA was introduced that it's much more difficult to beat than the two other
Sooo
We will agree to disagree
That's your opinion on VADA
I got mine

[tokon]

I’d like to know wtf is in the water over in the UK
The ukad from one extreme to another
Or it depends who’s on the ringer I guess

It's called hypocrisy.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yes I'm aware they're different. I don't care that they're different.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?



Right but PEDs are not banned or illegal to use in Pro Bodybuilding though. Which part of that are you not understanding?

You can't cheat by using PED's in pro bodybuilding because every single pro body builder is using them, it is a requirement in that sport.

I genuinely can't see how you're getting lost there or am I underestimating your ******ity again?

VADA also does carbon isotope ratio testing for every urine sample. Does USADA? Or do you not care about that either?

Are steroids illegal in the UK without a prescription? Did you ever use steroids in your bodybuilding competitions? If so you would be doing something illegal which would make you a PED cheat. Right?

[IronDanHamza]

Bro
It's been proven since 2011 when VADA was introduced that it's much more difficult to beat than the two other
Sooo
We will agree to disagree
That's your opinion on VADA
I got mine

Proven how? You're only saying that because VADA is more prevalent in Boxing compared to USADA so they test a lot more, therefore get more positive tests.

Compare their numbers to the UFC's numbers with USADA, who get more positive tests?

I don't know the answer to that but I'd bet it's close. Look how many fighters the UFC have caught in the 10 years they've had their USADA program.

I don't know the numbers off hand but if I had to guess I'd say it's probably more than VADA have caught boxers in the same time frame If not then it's a lot regardless.

You can't say VADA is impossible to beat and USADA isn't. That's just silly.

[IronDanHamza]

VADA also does carbon isotope ratio testing for every urine sample. Does USADA? Or do you not care about that either?

Not what I asked.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

Are steroids illegal in the UK without a prescription? Did you ever use steroids in your bodybuilding competitions? If so you would be doing something illegal which would make you a PED cheat. Right?

No, it wouldn't make me a PED cheat because to cheat you have to do something that's banned/illegal in a sport which PED use in Pro Bodybuilding is not.

Are you actually trying to say here that using PEDs in Pro Bodybuilding is cheating? You do understand that is a requirement in that sport, right? You can't even attain a pro card without them.

[greeneye99]

Proven how? You're only saying that because VADA is more prevalent in Boxing compared to USADA so they test a lot more, therefore get more positive tests.

Compare their numbers to the UFC's numbers with USADA, who get more positive tests?

I don't know the answer to that but I'd bet it's close. Look how many fighters the UFC have caught in the 10 years they've had their USADA program.

I don't know the numbers off hand but if I had to guess I'd say it's probably more than VADA have caught boxers in the same time frame If not then it's a lot regardless.

You can't say VADA is impossible to beat and USADA isn't. That's just silly.

What's silly is that You think all fighters are cheating until that one time VADA catches them
It means they got away before when they previously passed the VADA test
That's your opinion & I think that's silly

[paulf]

So when's the four year ban coming on Connor Benn? Tyson Fury?

Oh, right.

[IronDanHamza]

What's silly is that You think all fighters are cheating until that one time VADA catches them
It means they got away before when they previously passed the VADA test
That's your opinion & I think that's silly

So what are you thinking? That they just decided to cheat for that one fight they get caught by VADA? You can't honestly believe that.

Like I said, UFC's USADA program has caught a whole lot of fighters. I'd be interested to see the numbers between just them alone and VADA catching boxers. I'd bet it's very close.

I can't understand why you'd think VADA is impossible to beat. I can't see how you could logically come that conclusion. It is far from it.

[ShoulderRoll]

Not what I asked.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?






No, it wouldn't make me a PED cheat because to cheat you have to do something that's banned/illegal in a sport which PED use in Pro Bodybuilding is not.

Are you actually trying to say here that using PEDs in Pro Bodybuilding is cheating? You do understand that is a requirement in that sport, right? You can't even attain a pro card without them.

You’re saying that VADA and USADA are two of the same. But VADA tests for 70 substances outside of competition which WADA only bans in-competition. And VADA does carbon isotope ratio (CIR) testing for every urine sample…does USADA? CIR can distinguish between naturally produced testosterone and synthetic testosterone which is why that would matter.

Also USADA only has jurisdiction in the US. So if Ngannou went back to Africa between fights they would have to liaison with someone there to test him 24/7/365.

I don’t know how it is in the UK but steroids are illegal to use in America without a prescription. So anyone using steroids here for a bodybuilding competition without a doctor’s note would in fact be a PED cheat.

[IronDanHamza]

So when's the four year ban coming on Connor Benn? Tyson Fury?

Oh, right.

Depends on the evidence presented in the hearing doesn't it.

They've all had their hearings.