Comments Thread For: Krzysztof Glowacki Hit With Four-Year Ban By UKAD Over Failed Test in Riakporhe Fight

[IronDanHamza]

You’re saying that VADA and USADA are two of the same. But VADA tests for 70 substances outside of competition which WADA only bans in-competition. And VADA does carbon isotope ratio (CIR) testing for every urine sample…does USADA? CIR can distinguish between naturally produced testosterone and synthetic testosterone which is why that would matter.

Also USADA only has jurisdiction in the US. So if Ngannou went back to Africa between fights they would have to liaison with someone there to test him 24/7/365.

Well Ngannou lives in Las Vegas So that would be in his juristiction.

That's not what I asked you.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

I don’t know how it is in the UK but steroids are illegal to use in America without a prescription. So anyone using steroids here for a bodybuilding competition without a doctor’s note would in fact be a PED cheat.

Ok....I cannot make this easier to understand.....PEDs....are NOT....banned or illegal....in the sport of pro body building.

It is a requirement in the sport of pro body building to use PEDs. You cannot attain a pro card without them.

To suggest that using PEDs in PRO BODYBUILDING makes you a cheat has to be, without question, THE dumbest thing you have ever said And that is one hell of a list to chose from.

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Well Ngannou lives in Las Vegas So that would be in his juristiction.

That's not what I asked you.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?



Ok....I cannot make this easier to understand.....PEDs....are NOT....banned or illegal....in the sport of pro body building.

It is a requirement in the sport of pro body building to use PEDs. You cannot attain a pro card without them.

To suggest that using PEDs in PRO BODYBUILDING makes you a cheat has to be, without question, THE dumbest thing you have ever said And that is one hell of a list to chose from.

Is using steroids in pro bodybuilding permitted in the UK, though? And have you ever used steroids during one of your bodybuilding comps?

Ngannou lives in Vegas but did he ever travel back to Africa and spend significant amounts of time there?

[IronDanHamza]

Is using steroids in pro bodybuilding permitted in the UK, though? And have you ever used steroids during one of your bodybuilding comps?

Using PED's is not illegal or banned in pro bodybuilding, no. I don't know how I can make that easier for you to understand.

Ngannou lives in Vegas but did he ever travel back to Africa and spend significant amounts of time there?

I don't know. I know he lives in Vegas so he's in their jurisdiction. If he leaves Vegas he has to notify the UFC and thus USADA.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

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Using PED's is not illegal or banned in pro bodybuilding, no. I don't know how I can make that easier for you to understand.



I don't know. I know he lives in Vegas so he's in their jurisdiction. If he leaves Vegas he has to notify the UFC and thus USADA.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

I didn’t ask about PEDs. I asked specifically about steroids.

What I said is that VADA differs from USADA and pointed out several ways in which they are different. Ways that I think are non-trivial. If Ngannou spent significant time in Africa then USADA would have no jurisdiction there and would have to go through local labs in order to do true 24/7/365 testing.

[IronDanHamza]

I didn’t ask about PEDs. I asked specifically about steroids.

All PEDs including all Anabolic Steroids are not banned or illegal to use in the sport of pro bodybuilding, no.

What I said is that VADA differs from USADA and pointed out several ways in which they are different. Ways that I think are non-trivial. If Ngannou spent significant time in Africa then USADA would have no jurisdiction there and would have to go through local labs in order to do true 24/7/365 testing.

I'm aware they're different. I don't care that they're different.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

Well, it's a good job that he lives in Vegas then isn't it.

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All PEDs including all Anabolic Steroids are not banned or illegal to use in the sport of pro bodybuilding, no.



I'm aware they're different. I don't care that they're different.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

Well, it's a good job that he lives in Vegas then isn't it.

That’s quite interesting. Steroids are illegal to use in the United States without a doctors approval. I didn’t know the UK was more permissive.

You don’t care that VADA and USADA are different? Do you think the differences between them are trivial, then?

[IronDanHamza]

That’s quite interesting. Steroids are illegal to use in the United States without a doctors approval. I didn’t know the UK was more permissive.

All PEDs including all anabolic steroids are not banned or illegal to use in Pro Bodybuilding in any country and especially not in America. I don't know how to say it any other way.

You are free to use any PED you like in the sport of pro body building. None of them are banned.

You don’t care that VADA and USADA are different? Do you think the differences between them are trivial, then?

No I don't. VADA is great, USADA is great. Both the gold standards of drug testing.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

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All PEDs including all anabolic steroids are not banned or illegal to use in Pro Bodybuilding in any country and especially not in America. I don't know how to say it any other way.

You are free to use any PED you like in the sport of pro body building. None of them are banned.



No I don't. VADA is great, USADA is great. Both the gold standards of drug testing.

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

Steroids are illegal to use in America, period. Without a doctor’s prescription. Competing in pro bodybuilding does not magically change that law and mean you are suddenly allowed to use any steroid you want.

Again, I’m saying that VADA and USADA are different in significantly ways that are relevant when it comes to someone like Ngannou.

[IronDanHamza]

Steroids are illegal to use in America, period. Without a doctor’s prescription. Competing in pro bodybuilding does not magically change that law and mean you are suddenly allowed to use any steroid you want.

That's irrelevant.

They are not banned or illegal to use in pro body building. That's what's relevant. It's not prohbited to use them for Pro Bodybuilding and as mentioned before, they are a requirement.

Again, I’m saying that VADA and USADA are different in significantly ways that are relevant when it comes to someone like Ngannou.

Relevant when it comes to someone like Ngannou in what way?

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

[ShoulderRoll]

That's irrelevant.

They are not banned or illegal to use in pro body building. That's what's relevant. It's not prohbited to use them for Pro Bodybuilding and as mentioned before, they are a requirement.



Relevant when it comes to someone like Ngannou in what way?

Are you saying USADA isn't a legitimate testing procedure?

And are you saying that fight by fight VADA testing is more sufficient than 24/7, 365 USADA testing?

How is it irrelevant? It’s literally illegal to use steroids. Just because you compete in bodybuilding doesn’t make it suddenly legal.

I already explained how the differences between VADA and USADA could apply to Ngannou and to 24/7/365 testing. He visits Africa regularly.