Comments Thread For: Tarver Backs Crawford as P4P Best: How Many P4P Champions Has Inoue Defeated?

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  • -DSG-
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    #51
    I honestly don't care how people have their p4p list because its all subjective and their are no wrong answers. I do find it funny how an Asian fighter getting this recognition has African Americans all riled up. The same thing happened when Manny was doing his thing.

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    • hugh grant
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      #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      That’s objectively false.

      If Spence has beaten no one good, who has Fulton beat that’s good?
      Exactly there's no reason why spence was higher pfp than Fulton was. I Id pick Fulton to best Spence if same size. Fulton scared me against inoue. His face didn't give much away.
      Inoue didn't campaign 5 years in division before beating Fulton.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 12-30-2023, 05:18 PM.

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      • Cortez
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        #53
        Another article ac about a sentence from social media.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #54
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          Exactly there's no reason why spence was higher pfp than Fulton was. I Id pick Fulton to best Spence if same size. Fulton scared me against inoue. His face didn't give much away.
          Inoue didn't campaign 5 years in division before beating Fulton.
          So if Spence has beaten no one good, who has Fulton beaten?

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          • hugh grant
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            #55
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            So if Spence has beaten no one good, who has Fulton beaten?
            If spence is worthy of being pfp on basis of beating Garcia and porter, then so is fulton, and Tapales. Id pick them to best spence. Fulton took inoue punches without much issue round after round and spence don't hit as hard as inoue.
            Inoue beating Fulton in 1st fight in division makes it a greater win than buds win over spence
            Last edited by hugh grant; 12-30-2023, 05:39 PM.

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            • DFM
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              #56
              P4P fighters don't lose like Errol did. That was probably one of the easiest wins for Crawford.

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              • daggum
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                #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                I know but you only cite rankings when it suits your agenda.

                It really doesn’t matter, Fulton’s resume is no where near Spence’s.
                It always suits my agenda and I just showed it was very close to spences so saying it's nowhere close makes no sense, saying spences resume is way better is just something you feel but isnt backed up with facts. Unless you count unranked tiny Mikey Garcia as some kind of legit win.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by daggum

                  It always suits my agenda and I just showed it was very close to spences so saying it's nowhere close makes no sense, saying spences resume is way better is just something you feel but isnt backed up with facts. Unless you count unranked tiny Mikey Garcia as some kind of legit win.
                  Not really. You know Baldomir was ranked #1 when Floyd beat him right? Great win or no?

                  You say Floyd is a cherry picker but he beat 9 fighters ranked #1 according to the very same rankings that you cite.

                  How do you reconcile that conflict?

                  Again, if we are going to pretend that Fulton’s resume is close to Spence’s than go ahead, it’s not based in reality.

                  If that’s your basis for “facts” then that must mean you consider Floyd’s resume top 5 of all time I take it? Because there are hardly any fighters in the history of the sport who have beaten more Top 5 ranked fighters than Floyd and I’m pretty sure there are none that beat more #1 ranked fighters.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DFM
                    P4P fighters don't lose like Errol did. That was probably one of the easiest wins for Crawford.
                    Really?

                    Do I need to make a list of P4P ranked fighters who have been dominated?

                    I could make a day of it.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist
                      Let's be real here, it's a toss up between the two. If you have Inoue pound for pound, that's fine and vice versa with Crawford. Both are terrific boxers and deserve plaudits; I personally have Crawford number one but I'm not going to act like Inoue couldn't be number one.
                      Yes, sensible answer. I say Inoue, but can't argue with anyone saying Crawford. It's all hypothetical anyway and can't be proven one way or the other.

                      Crawford beating Spence was higher profile than anything Inoue's done and the manner of Spence's destruction was incredible.

                      Both Inoue and Crawford are undisputed in two weight classes. We've yet to see a ceiling for either. Really, the only thing for me that swings it in Inoue's favour is that he is the more active fighter.

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