Comments Thread For: Tarver Backs Crawford as P4P Best: How Many P4P Champions Has Inoue Defeated?

[champion4ever]

Fulton was top 10

Didn’t Spence win a controversial decision against Shawn Porter, in which most boxing fans felt he lost?

Ok, Fine; I stand corrected! Now as far as Spence is concerned; Yes. I did personally have him losing that fight to Shawn Porrter. It was very close but I thought he just barely edged it.

However, that was not the case with most boxing fans here on Non-Stop boxing. Most of them had Spence winning that fight due to Errol Spence's knockdown of Shawn Porter. However, I was not one of them.

Don't get me wrong. I am in no way, shape or form attempting to diminish or discredit Naoya Inoue's status as a top P4P elite fighter. I just personally believe that Crawford's overall body work is a lot stronger than his that's all.

However, I do respect your opinion. We can agree to disagree. I just cannot find any fighter outside of Nonito Donaire; Who Inoue has defeated that comes so much as remotely or good as Errol Spence, Jr.

[sargo]

P4P #1 Crawford. Fighter of the year Inoue.

[moochi]

I love Crawford but fighting once per year doesn't cut it. Inoue deserves top spot.

[Madison Boxing]

One - Donaire. Who he beat twice.

Crawford has a max of one - Spence, and it’s debatable whether he should be considered P4P. Even if he is, Crawford won once.

Inoue has two wins over a guy who was a P4P level and is a lock for Hall of Fame.

Was donaire in p4p list when inoue beat him? No... people said he was shot years before when Frampton shut him out, he was coming up to 40 , says a lot if thats inoues best opponent

[hugh grant]

Crawford is just simply the guy with the better resume and quality wins. He was 2 -time undisputed before inoue as well. What he did to spence, shutting down every option spence had and having a counter for everything, is impressive. Spence is a top pound for pound guy and a proven great fighter.
Inoue's best win was against an old fart who broke his orbital bone, complete bums and a mid fulton who wasn't even a great fighter. I rank fulton as decent at best. Inoue got undisputed against a bum who got ko'ed by other bums before, and he struggled a bit, getting tagged more times than I would like to see. This is hilarious.

Youll find Bud was the fighter who people criticised for not doing much. Even Spence belittled Bud before fighting him. When Bud wanted to be above Nelo in the pfp rankings he was ridiculed.
Spence wasn't a top pfp fighter. He was one of the best WW fighters. To be a top pfp fighter you need to dominate good fighters in your division so easily that people think you need to step up for competition and people predict youd do well in 2 or 3 divisions more. Spence satisfied basically none of that criteria.

[_Rexy_]

Ok, Fine; I stand corrected! Now as far as Spence is concerned; Yes. I did personally have him losing that fight to Shawn Porrter. It was very close but I thought he just barely edged it.

However, that was not the case with most boxing fans here on Non-Stop boxing. Most of them had Spence winning that fight due to Errol Spence's knockdown of Shawn Porter. However, I was not one of them.

Don't get me wrong. I am in no way, shape or form attempting to diminish or discredit Naoya Inoue's status as a top P4P elite fighter. I just personally believe that Crawford's overall body work is a lot stronger than his that's all.

However, I do respect your opinion. We can agree to disagree. I just cannot find any fighter outside of Nonito Donaire; Who Inoue has defeated that comes so much as remotely or good as Errol Spence, Jr.

I had Porter winning by 1 point as well.

And although he's unknown on this side of the globe, Omar Narvaez should (and will) be inducted into the Boxing HOF. Inoue skipped a weight class to fight Narvaez without a tuneup and stopped him in 2 rounds, ending his 9 consecutive title defenses.

[_Rexy_]

Ok, Donaire was 36 yrs old and 5 days shy of turning 37. Crawford was 35 and 2 months shy of turning 36 when he faced Spence. But yeah, the wear and tear was a bigger factor. Peak Donaire was pound for pound, late 30’s Donaire was formidable but no longer elite.

I think Donaire shocked a lot of people too though, when he moved down to 118 a lot of us figured it was a ****** move, but that Burnett win was fantastic (UK fans say Burnett hurt his back, but if you watch the fight, it was a body shot the round before that caused it) It was like Donaire realized he could cut down to 118 again and keep his size.

[_Rexy_]

Crawford is just simply the guy with the better resume and quality wins. He was 2 -time undisputed before inoue as well. What he did to spence, shutting down every option spence had and having a counter for everything, is impressive. Spence is a top pound for pound guy and a proven great fighter.
Inoue's best win was against an old fart who broke his orbital bone, complete bums and a mid fulton who wasn't even a great fighter. I rank fulton as decent at best. Inoue got undisputed against a bum who got ko'ed by other bums before, and he struggled a bit, getting tagged more times than I would like to see. This is hilarious.

Bud's best win is a fat drunk who had already been KO'd by a windshield. Before that he became undisputed by beating Indongo who has gone 2-8 (8) since that fight.


See how easily you can do this to anyones resume?

[HeadShots]

The ironic thing is there’s 0 win on Crawfords resume that comes close to Donaire(first ballot hof)


and Inoue beat him twice.



Crawford has exactly 0 hall of famers on his resume


Inoue > Crawford. Period

[OnePunch]

Everyone knows I'm a huge Crawford fan, but I don't have an issue with anyone having Inoue in the top spot. After all, P4P is nothing but OPINION, and we all have our own. One could certanly make the argument that if the weights were equal, that Inoue could give Bud all he wanted, and perhaps even win the fight. Isnt that what P4P ratings are all about?

What I AM confused about though is people calling Bud a "3 division lineal champ". What am I missing here? Did beating friggin Ricky Burns at 135 make Bud lineal at 135? Call me crazy but I never considered Bud lineal at 135, because I never considered Burns as lineal. Bud certainly is a 3 division champ, but calling him a 3 division lineal is a bit of a stretch......