Terence Crawford vs. Jaron "Boots" Ennis.

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #31
    Originally posted by Oracle01

    lmao 4 division lineal champion vs who? All time greats are judged by who they actually fought and beat not this paper glory which is designed to fool casuals like you. Beating a highly rated young lion like Boots would be a more impressive achievement that beating anyone at 154 for any belt imo.
    So beating a guy who's beaten nobody himself is better than beating someone like Tszyu for a title? A guy who has actually beat some decent guys and proven to be a solid fighter himself in the process?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant

      Not saying he doesn't have power, there are levels to it and I need to see him against better comp. His resume just isn't that good right now and he should move on from delusions about Bud and build it while he yung doe.
      I'm sure Boots knows hes unlikely to get any big fight, like Bud, til he amasses casual fans who build up his gate numbers & puts him in position to have a PPV fight with a name. But you still gotta yo momma ppl &/or call out whoever doesn't want to fight you.

      And we aren't even talking about if it'll happen, which I think most including myself have already stated we don't see it happening. We are talking about IF it did happen who wins. That said I get some ppl being unable to calculate what happens when a guy steps up a level, but its easy to see Boots is a future #1 guy to me & many no matter who he'll need to go thru to be it. Some cats are so talented its not even a bold prediction & you've seen it enough over the years with the new talented guy taking out the old talented guy that its not unlike the great big guy beats the great little guy saying.

      Randomly how would you see Boots vs Errol going down next if that fight were to happen....which it obv wouldn't which shouldn't need to be said but I will?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Oracle01

        lmao 4 division lineal champion vs who? All time greats are judged by who they actually fought and beat not this paper glory which is designed to fool casuals like you. Beating a highly rated young lion like Boots would be a more impressive achievement that beating anyone at 154 for any belt imo.
        Boots has no quality wins. Lineal titles are the only titles that matter and Crawford's wins over Beltran, Postol, and Spence respectively are all top tier wins. You have no idea what you're watching.

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          #34
          Originally posted by famicommander

          Boots has no quality wins. Lineal titles are the only titles that matter and Crawford's wins over Beltran, Postol, and Spence respectively are all top tier wins. You have no idea what you're watching.
          You listed a win over a 29-6 gate kepper Beltran a top tier win?. Postal went 3-4 since the Crawford loss. Ye real 'top tier' wins lmao. Boots is clearly a much better fighter than those guys, if you have an educated boxing eye which you clearly don't. Beltran lol!

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            #35
            Originally posted by Oracle01

            You listed a win over a 29-6 gate kepper Beltran a top tier win?. Postal went 3-4 since the Crawford loss. Ye real 'top tier' wins lmao. Boots is clearly a much better fighter than those guys, if you have an educated boxing eye which you clearly don't. Beltran lol!
            Beltran was literally the top rated fighter available in the lightweight division at the time of the fight you clown. It was a lineal title fight and a Ring Magazine title fight. Beltran would go on to win a world title after Crawford beat him and the vast majority of people had him winning the fight with Ricky Burns where he got a draw prior to the Crawford fight.

            You clearly don't even watch boxing. All you can do is look up things on BoxRec and try to draw conclusions without any real context.

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              #36
              Originally posted by famicommander

              Beltran was literally the top rated fighter available in the lightweight division at the time of the fight you clown. It was a lineal title fight and a Ring Magazine title fight. Beltran would go on to win a world title after Crawford beat him and the vast majority of people had him winning the fight with Ricky Burns where he got a draw prior to the Crawford fight.

              You clearly don't even watch boxing. All you can do is look up things on BoxRec and try to draw conclusions without any real context.
              How was it a lineal title fight when Beltran just had a NABO belt? The fact he was ranked 1 just proves my point how meaningless that is because it does not change the fact he was a gatekeeper with 6 losses. Beltran won a vacant title years later vs a total bum. You are proving my points by trying to pump up a win only a journeyman with 6 losses as 'high tier'. Burns was trash also btw another british hype job.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Oracle01

                How was it a lineal title fight when Beltran just had a NABO belt? The fact he was ranked 1 just proves my point how meaningless that is because it does not change the fact he was a gatekeeper with 6 losses. Beltran won a vacant title years later vs a total bum. You are proving my points by trying to pump up a win only a journeyman with 6 losses as 'high tier'. Burns was trash also btw another british hype job.
                You don't seem to even know what a lineal title is. Educate yourself. Not my job.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  You don't seem to even know what a lineal title is. Educate yourself. Not my job.
                  I know what it is. Beltran was not lineal anything. You become lineal when you beat the man who beat the man although that is also overrated. He was a journeyman, and it seems you don't know what that is.

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                    #39
                    Boots isn’t defensively responsible enough to beat Crawford. He’s flashy and has more special effects than Spence, but I’m not quite sure if he’s as effective. Crawford is very beatable to me, but it will take another special talent with similar skills and IQ to beat him. Boots looks the part, but there’s something missing from him, I’m not sure what it is.
                    Last edited by Carpe Diem; 12-27-2023, 08:06 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oracle01

                      I know what it is. Beltran was not lineal anything. You become lineal when you beat the man who beat the man although that is also overrated. He was a journeyman, and it seems you don't know what that is.
                      The lineal title was vacant. Crawford and Beltran were ranked in the top 2 at the time by every media outlet. Thus it was for the vacant lineal/Ring/TBRB championship.

                      Again, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You are a casual and a clown and you should stop posting because you're embarrassing yourself.

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