Is Fury really favourite againt Usyk?

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  • oscar9992
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    #1

    Is Fury really favourite againt Usyk?

    Is Fury really favourite againt Usyk?


    Fury's wins aren't aging well & his best win just got dominated by Parker.

    Struggled & had a blood face vs Wallin, whom Joshua just easily dominated & made quit.


    Not to mention Fury did everything to postpone & duck this fight.

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    #2
    Hopefully they fight, so it doesn't really matter

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    • PerfectJab
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      #3
      With Fury I feel some things are just gone now, due to his lifestyle over the years and his age.
      I.e. his balance and physical strength. You could also tell in the face off with Usyk when he tried to bully Usyk and Usyk just shoved him back, showing he has far greater core and back strength than Fury.

      Fury has to

      a) get himself in shape
      b) work a lot on his conditioning for the immense pace that Usyk can set in later rounds (I actually think this will be his biggest problem against Usyk, he has never faced anybody who can set a pace like Usyk and this at the back end of his career..)
      c) improve his strength
      d) work on his defense. He hasn't the reflexes or the footwork anymore.
      e) work on the right tactics vs Usyk. The 'leaning on' tactics are now well known and Usyk is preparing against it (hinted at it).

      That is a lot to work on in one training camp.
      All this at his age and his last real serious fight will be 2,5 years ago when he faces Usyk.
      So...I wouldn't call him favorite for this fight, no

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      • mxtali
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        #4
        The odds are much closer than they were earlier in the year for obvious reasons. My sportsbook has Usyk at +135 and I would not be surprised if the line gets tighter. Will probably drop some at +200 Usyk decision.

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          #5
          Originally posted by PerfectJab
          With Fury I feel some things are just gone now, due to his lifestyle over the years and his age.
          I.e. his balance and physical strength. You could also tell in the face off with Usyk when he tried to bully Usyk and Usyk just shoved him back, showing he has far greater core and back strength than Fury.

          Fury has to

          a) get himself in shape
          b) work a lot on his conditioning for the immense pace that Usyk can set in later rounds (I actually think this will be his biggest problem against Usyk, he has never faced anybody who can set a pace like Usyk and this at the back end of his career..)
          c) improve his strength
          d) work on his defense. He hasn't the reflexes or the footwork anymore.
          e) work on the right tactics vs Usyk. The 'leaning on' tactics are now well known and Usyk is preparing against it (hinted at it).

          That is a lot to work on in one training camp.
          All this at his age and his last real serious fight will be 2,5 years ago when he faces Usyk.
          So...I wouldn't call him favorite for this fight, no
          Fury is actually younger than Usyk.

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          • Atypicalbrit
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            #6
            Originally posted by oscar9992

            Fury is actually younger than Usyk.
            Theres a massive difference between a disciplined super athlete who's never been out of shape in his life and a guy who routinely blows up 50-100lb overweight and is a heavy recreational drug user.


            Anyway to answer your question, in my opinion no, Fury is not the favourite nad it's more to do with the form of Usyk and Fury rather than anything their former opponents have done.

            It's very obvious that Usyk is far better preserved than Fury, I belive that Fury will need a career best performance or very close to it to win, whereas Usyk just needs a decent performance. I'm expecting a Usyk win.
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            • juggernaut666
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              #7
              Originally posted by oscar9992

              Fury is actually younger than Usyk.
              I can assure you Fury is absolutely not in biological age terms younger then Usyk .

              Big ppl generally age faster anyway but when you add in his diet and lifestyle it’s why he looks at least a decade older then he actually is . I look younger then him and I’m 49 .

              But should Fury be favored ? No he shouldn’t after the Ngannou fight but he will be anyway .


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              • hugh grant
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                #8
                I d like the bookies to have fury favourite, but Fury might perform better as underdog. I wonder if fury minds he might be offended if he was underdog.
                But id say usy k was faviurite. Nowadays bookies don't put someone favourite because they're bigger do they?
                Last edited by hugh grant; 12-25-2023, 08:01 PM.

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                • Spray_resistant
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                  #9
                  Fury's favorite position has wanned recently after getting a humiliating close nod against Francis and his best win this weekend dominated by lets be honest a B level fighter.

                  We know what happened with Francis was due to things Usyk doesn't have, size, weight, strength, grappling ability but he has boxing skills something a man with similar weight(Wilder) didn't have which led to him getting rag dolled by Fury.

                  Given Fury's decline due to lifestyle choices I give Usyk a favorable chance of putting on a clinic while having the ability to not allow Fury to impose himself physically roughing him up like he did Wilder.

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                  • Madison Boxing
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                    Is 50/50 imo, don't read too much into the ngannou fight , fury is a bit like klitsxhko in some respects, if they can't bully you physically they are extremely limited but he will be grabbing and leaning on usyk all night, it all depends if usyk has the power to stop him , if he can just walk through his punches and grab him it's going to be a tough night for usyk

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