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  • #31
    AJ has a better resume when compared to Wilder. The problem with Wilder is that when he was younger he faced several good heavyweights and plenty of bags, but lost to the two tops he faced (Fury and Parker).

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jsrr View Post

      Fury elite?
      The guy who’s only notable and best win is beating the guy everyone is ****ting on this website right this moment and who went life and death with a 40 year old MMA fighter with a 0-0 boxing record is one of the only elite heavyweights?

      Please!
      I’m not going to argue with anyone who doesn’t feel like he’s elite, but let’s not act like it’s blasphemy. He’s an undefeated world champion. He beat Wilder as a prime undefeated champion, who while not an elite boxer, is an elite puncher and probably the hardest puncher of this generation. He beat Klitchko who while past his best, was a reigning world champion who hadn’t lost in a decade and was active as fury was his third fight in 12 months. Overall, I don’t believe there’s been an elite Hw division since the Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, etc era ended.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
        Eddie isn’t lying, but I still think wilder sparks AJ
        Wilder doesn't have a Ruiz streak in him doe. He's terrified of getting hit himself and before he launches his only one weapon, he gets caught with massive combos. Wilder has to be very aggressive to beat AJ. If not, sparks would hover on Wilder on the canvas.

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        • #34
          Eddie “ Hes Not Right “ Hearn

          Burn that troll . Lol

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

            You’re correct as it's the only true way to prove it. Even though the resumes strongly says Joshua is levels above, he still should prove it in the ring. Unfortunately for Joshua he's always been denied that opportunity. And when Wilder is finally going to fight him, he blows his warm up. Similar scenario with Fury. Fury claims he's levels above Joshua. It has to be proven in the ring as it's the only true way. Joshua also has the stronger resume there, albeit they are closer. But Joshua again has been denied the opportunity to prove who is the best here. Fury makes the claims but has not been willing to prove his point.
            losing to dossers doesn’t make his resume stronger wtf are u on about lol

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            • #36
              "I am a gifted fighter who has a special gift and I am just searching for greatness."

              great to see AJ's ego is getting back on track after his win, more like a good fighter whos had some good and a few very good wins but some bad loses too

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Weebler I View Post

                Comes down to someone's definition of elite, it's very subjective.
                I dunno if he's not an elite heavyweight in this era then who is? Just Usyk?

                Presumably people think Fury is s.hit now, lol.

                People also don't like heavyweights on here a lot of the time have no idea what they're looking at.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jqSide View Post
                  Wilder doesn't have a Ruiz streak in him doe. He's terrified of getting hit himself and before he launches his only one weapon, he gets caught with massive combos. Wilder has to be very aggressive to beat AJ. If not, sparks would hover on Wilder on the canvas.
                  AJ doesn’t have the chin that of a Fury or Parker though, and once he lands, it’s bambi legs at least then the zzzzz’s soon there after.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Boro View Post
                    Joshua isn't leagues above Wilder until he proves it, it's useless talking about what he thinks he's capable of, he's in a sport where he can "prove it" what he's capable of...

                    Too many clowns in boxing lately talk about what they're capable of instead of proving it, just like Wilder.

                    Parker was always capable of beating Wilder but no one really expected it, the bookies give like a 14% chance to win because rarely if ever does Parker put it all together on one night.

                    And because AJs pocket Ref made Parker look uncompetitive and Ian John Lewis allowed Whyte to hold on the ropes for a good 20 seconds whilst out on his feet to wind down the clock if it wasn't for them refs parker could've easily beat both but because it played out the way it did people dismiss Parker...

                    As did I to be fair his propensity to coast against less than stellar opposition, the inability to put all his impressive attributes to good use and apprehensiveness just seemed like a recipe for a Wilder KO.
                    A few days ago, you was ****ing on as if this was a definitive win for Wilder 'You for sure was not talking about Parker winning this fight. You actually stated that Parker was the worst boxer in the sport'.

                    You was convinced that Parker career consisted of bad performances, when really? Parker has no bad performances on his resume 'Even during all of his loses, Parker has always been competitive'.

                    Anthony Joshua skill for skill is a by far superior boxer to Wilder, many Heavyweights are in the Heavyweight Division 'That is Wilder's issue mate. If Wilder struggles to stop his opponents in their tracks with his power, then he pretty much has no choice but to get out boxed and drop rounds vs most top level Heavyweights'.

                    Note: Joshua beat Parker straight up in their fight, it was actually a good boxing match skill for skill 'Joshua was the more aggressive fighter, and authoritative with his attacks'.

                    Anthony Joshua has also ****** out Whyte by the way, just In case you have decided to pass over that performance.

                    The fighter who have boasted their resumes with hypothetical and mythical match ups in this era have been both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder 'Joshua has been one of the heavyweights who has actually attempted to take on all comers'.

                    And you very really see Joshua's fans, trying to play off mythical match ups as reality 'Hardcore Fury fans behave in this manner all the time'

                    But I will say this? I still think Team Joshua should fight Wilder next 'Early next year'. If Eddie Hearn has to, then make this fight back in the UK etc.





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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                      A few days ago, you was ****ing on as if this was a definitive win for Wilder 'You for sure was not talking about Parker winning this fight. You actually stated that Parker was the worst boxer in the sport'.

                      You was convinced that Parker career consisted of bad performances, when really? Parker has no bad performances on his resume 'Even during all of his loses, Parker has always been competitive'.

                      Anthony Joshua skill for skill is a by far superior boxer to Wilder, many Heavyweights are in the Heavyweight Division 'That is Wilder's issue mate. If Wilder struggles to stop his opponents in their tracks with his power, then he pretty much has no choice but to get out boxed and drop rounds vs most top level Heavyweights'.

                      Note: Joshua beat Parker straight up in their fight, it was actually a good boxing match skill for skill 'Joshua was the more aggressive fighter, and authoritative with his attacks'.

                      Anthony Joshua has also ****** out Whyte by the way, just In case you have decided to pass over that performance.

                      The fighter who have boasted their resumes with hypothetical and mythical match ups in this era have been both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder 'Joshua has been one of the heavyweights who has actually attempted to take on all comers'.

                      And you very really see Joshua's fans, trying to play off mythical match ups as reality 'Hardcore Fury fans behave in this manner all the time'

                      But I will say this? I still think Team Joshua should fight Wilder next 'Early next year'. If Eddie Hearn has to, then make this fight back in the UK etc.




                      I literally said he's arguably the worst and I also said he has all the attributes to be one of the best in the division and he has a very real chance of beating Wilder now stop being disingenuous and misrepresenting what i'm saying you idiot.

                      I think my exact words where - "Who mentioned Wilder, It's a very real possibility Parker beats him." because you kept bleating on about Wilder and sucking AJ off despite me mentioning neither.

                      P.S. And the reason I said he was arguably the worst in the division is because he has all the ability and attributes and never puts them to good use and is more than willing to coast.
                      Last edited by Boro; 12-24-2023, 02:34 PM. Reason: P.S.

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