Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Has Never Beaten an Elite Heavyweight, Joshua is Leagues Above Him!

[Lefty0616]

Wilder probably wishes he took that fight with Ruiz.

Hearns has a point....come to think of it.

[juanpablo]

I have to agree with Eddie. AJ has one of the best resumes out there right now, way better than Wilder's.

[Weebler I]

Joshua hasn’t beat an elite heavyweight either. Klitschko was old and retiring and wasn’t elite. Joshua is better than wilder but not elite.

Comes down to someone's definition of elite, it's very subjective.

[Phase III]

If Wilder has never been an elite fighter why has Hearn been busy trying to fight him. Hearns hypocrisy shows how two faced and FOS he is. He’s now sucking up to Warren because he need Warrens help to get the big money. What a complete ass kissing fraud, two faced, hypocrite.

[Rodtang]

Joshua isn't leagues above Wilder until he proves it, it's useless talking about what he thinks he's capable of, he's in a sport where he can "prove it" what he's capable of...

Too many clowns in boxing lately talk about what they're capable of instead of proving it, just like Wilder.

Parker was always capable of beating Wilder but no one really expected it, the bookies give like a 14% chance to win because rarely if ever does Parker put it all together on one night.

And because AJs pocket Ref made Parker look uncompetitive and Ian John Lewis allowed Whyte to hold on the ropes for a good 20 seconds whilst out on his feet to wind down the clock if it wasn't for them refs parker could've easily beat both but because it played out the way it did people dismiss Parker...

As did I to be fair his propensity to coast against less than stellar opposition, the inability to put all his impressive attributes to good use and apprehensiveness just seemed like a recipe for a Wilder KO.

Your correct as it's the only true way to prove it. Even though the resumes strongly says Joshua is levels above, he still should prove it in the ring. Unfortunately for Joshua he's always been denied that opportunity. And when Wilder is finally going to fight him, he blows his warm up. Similar scenario with Fury. Fury claims he's levels above Joshua. It has to be proven in the ring as it's the only true way. Joshua also has the stronger resume there, albeit they are closer. But Joshua again has been denied the opportunity to prove who is the best here. Fury makes the claims but has not been willing to prove his point.

[juanpablo]

If Wilder has never been an elite fighter why has Hearn been busy trying to fight him. Hearns hypocrisy shows how two faced and FOS he is. He’s now sucking up to Warren because he need Warrens help to get the big money. What a complete ass kissing fraud, two faced, hypocrite.

Elite and popular are not the same. Andre Ward was elite but not popular, Ryan Garcia is popular but not elite. Wilder brings in money because he is the biggest puncher in the sport, and that sells

[hugh grant]

If Wilder has never been an elite fighter why has Hearn been busy trying to fight him. .

Well everybody predicting wilder ko s Josh in one round. I'm sure Hearn wanted to prove them wrong

[Smash]

wilder is over the hill now, he is what he is now, finished, it will happen to all of them, hes old inactive and takes drugs, i class that as a spence type of performance, its easy to spout off stuff when guys reach that point, fury went to the states and beat wilder when he was good, AJ told his fans to go fight wilder, there is a difference here

[Boro]

Your correct as it's the only true way to prove it. Even though the resumes strongly says Joshua is levels above, he still should prove it in the ring. Unfortunately for Joshua he's always been denied that opportunity. And when Wilder is finally going to fight him, he blows his warm up. Similar scenario with Fury. Fury claims he's levels above Joshua. It has to be proven in the ring as it's the only true way. Joshua also has the stronger resume there, albeit they are closer. But Joshua again has been denied the opportunity to prove who is the best here. Fury makes the claims but has not been willing to prove his point.

Fury has having a meaningful fight right now so that's what matters, but I agree all of them talking shít in the only sport where you can legally punch fúck out of each to prove your the "better man" it's weird people stick to twitter fingers.

But I certainly don't agree with AJ and his team being the one who's been denied opportunities, the guy got handed a gold medal on a platter, Eddie roll out the red carpet and overpaid "champions" because of the favour the gold won him and he's effectively dined off that for years.

And we've seen with Usyks team despite what they said publicly about Fury and their team being a nightmare to deal with allegedly.

Straight after the Dubois they openly admitted they never even tried to deal with them in a genuine manner or counteroffer and Egis Klimas came out and said it was the easiest fight to make now it's actually happening.

So as far as i'm concerned public waffle from either AJs team or Furys team is just smoke and mirrors, they're both culpable if they REALLY wanted it, it would've happened by now.

Now Wilder is a different matter entirely, he is a duck, he's openly admitted he took Fury for less money but let's be honest here, Fury is the one who dethroned Wlad and he did jump in the ring after Szpilka fight if I remember correctly so it had been built for years.

If Wilder beat him he have more of a legitimate claim to being "the guy" in the division than Joshua ever could, collecting belts off people who've never defended them or vacants title doesn't make him "that guy".

[Rodtang]

It's true and there for all to see. I've said for years, Wilders never been top 5 for sure, and I doubt even top 10. His only decent scalp is Ortiz, who's own top 10 status has always been questionable. I personally think Ortiz was probably of top 10 quality, but his resume never backed that up. Ortiz also badly exposed Wilder, and only lost to a guy with a punchers chance. Wilders power carried him to places his skills never could, and his carefully selected, cherry picked sham of a career was built around that. Ortiz was almost the cherry pick gone wrong. Fury was the cherry pick gone wrong. Now as a result he has to start proving his worth, and he's failed miserably against Parker, who's limited. Joshua and Whyte beat Parker long ago. It's no wonder Wilder has avoided them. And it's no wonder Wilder avoided Parker back when Parker had a title. I say Wilder avoided, but I've always believed Wilder would have fight those guys if it were up to him. But it never was. His opponents were always carefully selected by the weasels, Finkel and Haymon. But they messed up with Fury. And almost messed up with Ortiz. Now we're seeing that Wilder is and always has been a low level manufactured product.