Time to admit Wilder doesn`t hit that hard

[Malvado]

Definitely hits hard but it's technically limited, if he were to fight a fighter with good boxing skills and a solid chin, like let's say AJ, Usyk, Fury and Parker. He likely lose.

[juggernaut666]

ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


ali-50% 18 out of 36
louis-75% 24 out of 32
liston-63% 7 out of 11
patterson-35% 7 out of 20
foreman-58% 7 out of 12
holmes-52% 12 out of 23
marciano-80% 8 out of 10
bowe-60% 3 out of 5
lewis-53% 8 out of 15
fury-60% 3 out of 5
vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
joshua-50% 5 out of 10
tyson-53% 8 out of 15
holyfield-30% 6 out of 20
wilder-28% 2 out of 7

But he dropped fury! So did Cunningham and ngannou. Wow the 3 biggest punchers ever!

That’s the thing how you can manipulate knockouts . Wilders team around him masterfully got him the reputation of hardest hitter ever but the reality is there’s no actual proof of that , I see Klitchko as a harder puncher who was in the same era as him and bc he didn’t try and knockout everyone bc he had the skills people down recognize it as much .

It’s a lot of marketing ,his right hand is one of the best but if you ask me who really hits the hardest this era currently I’d say Joshua . There’s just a big difference in his thudding shots where he don’t need the timing as much and he puts less momentum in his because he’s very defensively aware being a counter puncher , but even on the offense being the aggressor you can see Wallin was getting hurt just by blocking some of those punches .

You don’t see many power counter punchers bc it’s harder to throw full power when you rely more on offensive timing . Wilder relies on a lot of room and a running start swarming his opponents,two entirely different levels of skill .

[daggum]

Where did you get that data?

No doubt power tie to class.

i actually did all the research myself. very tedious work. its probably not 100 percent accurate since i only have the year end rankings but pretty close to it.

[tonysoprano]

Plenty of people have knocked Fury down including an MMA fighter. He made his name knocking out bums, that’s why he was able to succeed. At least 40 of his wins are complete trash.

He is one of the worst HW champions in history, last night just showed him up for what he is. Charles Martin with a big right hand.

[Spray_resistant]

He's 38 and lost his explosiveness and speed to some degree, remember when Kermit Cintron used to hit hard then became a pillowfisted slapper?

Same thing is happening here, he got old and he doesn't have the cagey skills to compensate.

[daggum]

He's 38 and lost his explosiveness and speed to some degree, remember when Kermit Cintron used to hit hard then became a pillowfisted slapper?

Same thing is happening here, he got old and he doesn't have the cagey skills to compensate.

i dont think cintron knocked out anyone good which is quite analogous to wilder. they both started fighting better comp and bye bye power. tank is next if he ever steps up but he wont

[Spray_resistant]

i dont think cintron knocked out anyone good which is quite analogous to wilder. they both started fighting better comp and bye bye power. tank is next if he ever steps up but he wont

Was thinking the same, he became very tentative after getting battered twice by Margarito similar to Wilder got batter twice by Fury then became cautious mentally ruined with a diminished resistance to punches.

[Weebler I]

He knocked out Stiverne, Ortiz and with a different ref Fury might've been counted out too. He was also knocking out some opponents earlier than Joshua who is a big puncher himself.

I think his power is legit, but it's the only thing that is.

[CubanGuyNYC]

He knocked out Stiverne, Ortiz and with a different ref Fury might've been counted out too. He was also knocking out some opponents earlier than Joshua who is a big puncher himself.

I think his power is legit, but it's the only thing that is.

If all we had to go on was Ortiz, I’d say Wilder is one hard-hitting dude. No way you put that Cro-Magnon head on a twenty inch neck on ***** Street if you don’t punch very hard. But I don’t care how hard you hit, you’ve gotta hit your target — and solidly at that.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Don`t fool yourselves, Wilder doesn`t have Foreman or Zhang type power. The power that goes last. Guys with heavy hands can fight even in late 40s, even though being slow.

Wilder`s "power" comes from the speed of his punch. And this speed of the punch is gone now, it is nowhere.